I refuse to speak starbuckian

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  1. particlemn

    particlemn Silver Member

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    I was wondering if i am the only one who refuses to speak in starbuck's made up language. I usually order a large coffee then they ask if i mean some word that begins with a v coffee and i politely tell them no i want a large coffee. do we really need a new language to be cool? any thoughts?
     
  2. rwoman
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    Well, I did not think Italian was a made up language and I believe many think it's a cool language...the terms for these beverage sizes are not limited to Starbucks.

    Venti = 20 (oz or whatever measurement) = the size of said drink...

    :rolleyes:
     
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  3. LarryInNYC

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    I am exactly the same.

    I remember a funny Garrison Keillor sketch on exactly this subject.
     
  4. viguera
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    Starbucks uses their own naming convention to sound cool, I'm sure... and Venti being 20 is merely a coincidence, as their other sizes are short, tall and grande for 8, 12 and 16 ounces, respectively.

    I personally don't drink the stuff as I actually like good tasting coffee, but whenever I order something from a new place I ask "what's large" and they show me the cups, and that's what I'll get.

    If anybody tells me I have to ask for a "short" coffee (which just in itself sounds ridiculous) when I ask for small, I'm going to look at them like the imbecile they are. :)
     
  5. particlemn

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    a valid point but a iced coffee in said measurement is 24 oz so why is it not called a venti quattro
     
  6. rwoman
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    no clue, but a guess is that it's the amount of liquid that goes in the cup with the ice...
     
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  7. LarryInNYC

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    "Short" and "tall" (or, rather, "long") are, however, actual terms used in Italy to describe coffees, although even a luongo is smaller than a small American coffee.
     
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  8. viguera
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    Perhaps, but I stand by my original theory that it was designed by poseurs that like to sound cool while ordering a rather foul-tasting and expensive cup of coffee. :)
     
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    Personally, I don't speak "Starbuckian" because I don't go there enough to remember. When they ask what size, I usually just say medium and they know what I mean.
     
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    This reminds me of the "Stone Cold Creamery" sizes too.
     
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  11. LarryInNYC

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    Sorry, did not meant to suggest that they knew this, or cared, when they test-marketed their terms.
     
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  12. LarryInNYC

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    I have probably ordered coffee in Starbucks four times in my life. When forced to visit with other people I generally have a green tea (and hope they don't give me peppermint). I have never had anyone try to get me to use their cutsie names when I ask for either a large tea or a small coffee.
     
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    What's wrong with a venti decaf mocha frappacino with chai? :p
     
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    Just try ordering a venti anything anywhere other than in Starbucks while you're in Italy. That is Cafe Americano to them, large and tasteless,

    Oh, sorry for acting like I am on TOBB.
     
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    Oh no it's far from tasteless... the two or three times I drank that foul stuff it tasted like it was filtered through a donkey's anus.

    Yeah I have a strong opinion about Starbucks. :)
     
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    That sounds right- like a really fast old Audi. Fast as the wind!
     
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    My DH always makes fun of how long the name of the item I order ends up to be. "Here is your grande triple wild zebra latte no whip reduced cal". Haha. Silly, but it tastes so good.
     
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    I stand corrected. I apologize. That utterly foul bitter, stale, paper taste stays with me for a very long time each sad time when i am induced to go to a Starbucks.
     
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    I do not drink regular coffee...so it's never a worry. ;)
     
  20. gobluetwo
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    This is what I do at Starbucks. Sometimes, it seems they have the cups lined up by the register so you can actually see the sizes and know what to order, but I'll usually just ask. It's also important (imo) to ask how BIG a medium is, it's actually much bigger at some places than others (ie, the medium is really large, the large is really x-large, and the x-large is really just a big gulp of coffee).

    I believe starbucks uses Tazo teas, for which the green is usually the lemongrass stuff (which I like).
     
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    That is a funny one too. "regular" coffee has so many different meanings.

    US NYC: crean and sugar
    US midwest: no cream, no suger
    most of India: Lots and lots and lots of milk, heavy sugar (you don't call it 'regular' there, that is what you get when you ask for coffee.
    ...and so it goes
     
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    For me, it does not matter...none of it, anywhere! ;)
     
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    I used to think that having to conform to Starbucks' sizes a stupid thing. The fact that the sizes are somewhat related to what is ordered in Italy is a somewhat valid argument.

    But in the end, it became a question of what is easier? Just ordering it the way they have it listed allows me to get on with my life far faster than asking them for a large and then having a long drawn out conversation about which size is large and why that is large and not a super size or a medium, etc.

    Just make your order and step to the side.... otherwise, no soup for you!
     
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    That's something I've learnt today. I've never heard the term caffe' corto in the last 10 years I've been here. Un caffe' is what elsewhere might be called an espresso and is typically about 2mm deep. Un ristretto is like a short espresso, but I don't think I've ever had one. Un lungo is still 5 times as strong as elsewhere and you wouldn't have a problem downing it in one gulp.

    I'm just like the OP, if I ever have the misfortune to go in a starbucks I order a "small black coffee", not whatever they choose to name it. Not that I go there very often, but if I'm in a macdonalds I'd ask for chicken nuggets and or a burger, not a mac-anything for sure! :)
     
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    I refuse to speak the language but have three gift certificates. My precise terminology is "large coffee, black".
     
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