How would you interpret J7 Y7?

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  1. tomh009
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    7 open seats in J, with all Y seats sold? Or something else?
     
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    Not enough information to respond. Can you provide route and date?

    It certainly could mean J7 and Y0, or just J7 and Y7 (Occam's Razor!)

    It could be that the flight is in transition as things are shuffled / equipment is changed / R seats are determined / other. I'm sure there are 100 other options that I'm not thinking of too.
     
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    [KVS Availability Tool 6.0.6/Diamond - Sabre: Availability/FS/US-STD]
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    DEN  Denver Intl CO US [KDEN]
    YYZ  Toronto Pearson Intl ON CA [CYYZ]
    MON  07 Mar 2011
    
    Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
    ---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -----------------------------------------------------------------
    AC         1042    DEN   16:45     YYZ   21:43     319      R7 Y7 B7 M7 U7 H7 Q7 V7 N7 W7 G0 S7 P0 T7 E0 L7 A7 K7 J7 C7 D7 Z7
    
     
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    If they're still selling Y, M, U, Q, N, etc then my bet would be that there are still Y seats in at least some number. But I'm no expert. :)
     
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    Try buying a Y seat and see if the J count goes down as well.
     
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    Basic Interpretation with the example posted on #3: All class of service/fare types has 7 or more seats available for corresponding fare, in other word, wide-open.

    J is Business and Y is Economy. When you buy Y, J doesn't goes down, it only happens when Business is near fully-booked and one tries to booked sub-class in J.

    With AC....

    Business Class C, D, I, J, Z (I class is for upgrades)
    Economy Class Y, B, M, H, X, Q, V, N W, U, K, G, S, P, L, T, R, E, O
     
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    Right. But basically they're saying they're willing to sell 7 more business seats, or 7 more economy seats. But ... selling 7 economy seats could actually mean that they end up bumping some Y pax to J. If Y was already oversold, would they actually show J7 Y0?
     
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    If Y is fully booked, GDS display shows J7 Y0 (they won't show J7 Y7 is Y is fully booked). 7 means 7 seats available, or 30 seats available.

    GDS doesn't tell you if it's overbooked, that's only displaying in airlines' internal system, which passengers won't know until the day of travel.

    (Some airlines use 4 and some use 9 for inventory control purposes)
     

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