I posted this to my blog, but it actually started as a reply in another thread here on Milepoint. I thought it would be useful to bring it back here for some discussion, since it's less about specific upgrades with particular chains but more about upgrades generally and the various times and techniques for obtaining them, including for obtaining the better suites and not just the entry-level ones. And I'd love to see this as a work in progress rather than a definitive tone, would love to learn more because one of my great joys in travel is exceptional suites, I'm always in search of the next great room at an amazing property . Back in 2005 I offered up some recommendations, the upshot of which was to find a way to just ask (without being a jerk). I think I’m a bit more experienced now than I was then, and can offer some additional insight, hopefully some of it is new or will spark some idea about how to go about it. The crux of the advice from back in 2005 remains, though. There are a lot of guests in a hotel, many of which have some sort of status, and some get the upgrade and some don’t, some get the ‘special’ suites while others get the more mundane ones. And there are things that you can do to distinguish yourself, and it usually does have more to do with your mojo and strategy than about who you are in a hotel’s program (super-secret special hotel levels notwithstanding). That’s one of the interesting things about hotels versus airlines, where the advice commonly given about how you dress or whom to ask for an upgrade is almost always wrong. With a hotel it can actually work out. Elite upgrades aren’t all created equal. Let’s not over estimate the importance of ‘technique’, because hotel elite status obviously matters a lot. It’s the excuse to askand ticket in the door. But lots of people have status. And not all programs are created equal; Marriott, Hilton HHonors, and Priority Club don’t even include upgrades to suites as a published feature of their programs. Hyatt will let their Diamond members confirm a suite at booking four times a year, but it’s not usually going to be one of the monster or ‘named’ suites. Starwood’s upgrade program technically only extends to ‘standard’ suites. The one program that I’ve found can be useful in getting the really high-end suites, and whose hotels often have them, is Intercontinental’s Royal Ambassador. Here’s the Ambassador suite at the Intercontinental Singapore which I had back in February, booked a much more affordable room using the friends and family rate and they provided their standard ‘two category upgrade’ which they don’t “cap” (some hotels won’t upgrade beyond a certain level regardless of the room you book). I emailed the hotel ahead of time to ask their upgrade policy and they responded with a grid showing me what I needed to book in order to get a particular room type. Here’s one of my bookings in the Presidential Suite at the Intercontinental Manila, that was secured also using the friends and family rate, I think it was $175++. Here’s the living room (which also finished a baby grand piano). I’ve also had exceptional upgrades to the Jimbaran Bay Suite at the Intercontinental Bali, the Diplomatic Suite at the Intercontinental Bangkok, and a Terrace Suite at the Mark Hopkins in San Francisco to name just a few. In all of the above cases, I contacted the hotel ahead of time to strategize my upgrade, and all were secured with a very reasonable rate booking (the Intercontinental Bangkok using a buy one get on free weekend night, back when you could use those to book a suite). Of course, you don’t always want a monster suite, and a standard elite upgrade will do. Choosing your property matters a great deal. Some are just excellent at delivering the upgrades, such as the Westin Diplomatwhich has something like 86 suites in the upgrade pool and except for the week between Christmas and New Years will almost always deliver Starwood Platinum members a corner suite with wraparound balcony overlooking the ocean (and in some cases, also the intracoastal waterway). Most Starwood properties in Asia will try to upgrade you, many in the US just don’t have enough suites to go around to all of their top level elites. Knowing which properties are good for elite upgrades is important if those upgrades are important to you. For instance, you’ll have massive competition at the Westin Maui, it’s a good property for what it is but Platinum status will only go so far there. I had booked an odd mistake package deal that included the Fairmont Royal York about a year ago, and asked Fairmont for a status match. Now, I knew they didn’t dostatus matches generally, but that they usually replied to such requests with a confirmed suite upgrade certificate. Which they did in my case, and I used it on that stay. So there’s a different sort of example of leveraging a loyalty program for a suite… Confirmed suites are one of the things I do like about the Fairmont program. Book through the right channels Where you book matters and I don’t mean like the Expedia commercial. If you’ve got an American Express Platinum or Centurion card, Consider checking the Fine Hotels & Resorts rate at a property which will generally include an upgrade, breakfast, and an additional amenity. Centurion members can do even better, with an additional amenity beyond what’s shown for Platinum members like a folio credit. Similar deals can usually be obtained by booking a property through a Virtuoso agent, so an Amex card isn’t really required. Now, booking channel isn’t the only thing that determines your upgrade of course though the right booking channel can give you leverage or an opening for negotiating with the property. They’re supposed to try to give you an upgrade anyway, so might as well try for the best one possible. And you’re part of an overall relationship that they value. On the other hand, I’ve been upgraded even on Priceline reservations, usually when the hotel winds up oversold and I’m checking in late, all of the standard rooms have already been assigned and they need to upgrade someone. Of course, that’s a situation when you also risk being walked to another property, you’re a no-name guest where they’re less concerned about the relationship. Booking through Priceline doesn’t help you get upgraded, I’m just saying it does happen. In fact, if you aren’t booking through a preferred channel that pre-negotiates upgrades like Amex Fine Hotels and Resorts or Virtuoso, it’s generally best to book through a hotel website directly at least compared to online booking channels like Expedia or Hotels.com where the property canbe paying 20% or even (for a small, non-chain hotel) 40% of the room revenue to the booking service. Not that Expedia guests get the bad rooms mind you but there’s a reason that hotel chains like Starwood won’t even give points for those reservations let alone elite benefits, from the top on down there’s a mindset — which may or may not permeate to the particular hotel and down to the hotel’s front desk staff — that devalues those reservations due to their high costs. Negotiating in advance Upgrades can be arranged through correspondence with a manager.. GM, reservations manager, revenue manager, etc. Before I had any sort of hotel status, I would often send a fax to the hotel with some request about my stay. Perhaps it was a special occasion, and could they give me the view I was looking forward to? I might have flowers delivered to the room so that they’re there when we arrive, that would force the hotel to pre-block a room, and while they were thus hand-selecting a room it would tend to be better than if left to the check-in desk. And I would send a fax rather than making a phone call usually on the theory that a piece of paper could be picked up and taken as an action item, whereas a person that I got on the phone might well forget to do anything I had asked. Now, and with status, things are still quite negotiable. At the Sheraton Saigon I offered to spend points to get a Towers room. I had booked an award stay, and the hotel doesn’t upgrade from the main rooms to the Towers section as a status benefit. But they agreed to move me offer for points, confirmed in advance rather than an instant award at check-in, and then confirm my elite upgrade to a suite in the Towers section at the same time. As mentioned, with Intercontinental properties given their widely varying upgrade procedures, I almost always email in advance. Whenever I care what type of room I’ll get, I want to know what type of room to book in order to get it. Frequently Intercontinentals will confirm upgrades in advance for Royal Ambassador members (that status being earned based on unpublished criteria, roughly 50-60 Priority Club nights and at least 3 different Intercontinental properties, but members who earn it can also refer a friend to it for a year). Negotiating at Check-in Various hotels give varying levels of discretion to front desk staff, Randy Petersen was quoted years ago in the New York Times suggesting walking up to the counter and saying something like, “By any chance, is that big presidential suite available? I just feel important tonight,” and it doesn’t hurt to ask, even jokingly, once in a blue moon it might work. Sometimes it means ‘pushing’ at the check-in counter. When I arrived at the former Westin Rio Mar at 4pm, my pre-blocked junior suite wasn’t ready. They suggested I go have a drink or a late lunch and wait. I asked whether they were buying me lunch? Or if they’d like to find me a better room that was ready? The front office manager came over, typed a bit, and put me into an Atlantic Suite. It can also mean just expressing disappointment once you get up to the room, returning to the front desk and asking the hotel to do better, Lucky had an interesting (and successful) experience with this recently. Similarly, I mentioned my disappointment at the location of my suite at the Intercontinental Montelucia (ground floor, right next to the pool) and they moved me to a much larger suite… with its own back yard. Now, In Las Vegas, “negotiating” means “tipping.” On a 4-night stay at the Bellagio, a $100 bill at the check-in yielded a suite with 5 bathrooms. I slipped the $100 under my credit card, and asked “I was wondering if there are any upgrades available, I’d love one of those great big penthouse suites.” The desk clerk typed away, took my credit card and stuck the $100 in her pocket, and told me that I’d enjoy my room very much (but that if I had any concerns, to please come back and speak with her and not anyone else.) She had called me over from another line to help, I had been specifically avoiding her because conventional wisdom is that male clerks are more likely to respond favorably to the tip at check-in, and also because her line was directly next to where the manager on duty was standing. That didn’t concern her a bit, I assumed she was ‘kicking up’ and have written some posts in the past on the economics of tipping in travel and why hotels in Vegas in particular allow the practice to continue. Mistake rates I often prefer hotel mistake rates over airline ones, in fact I’ll usually eschew booking airfare glitches that don’t allow me to originate in my home city or that are non-upgradable coach. And I’ve rarely seen mistakes in true international first class. There are also far fewer airfare mistakes, at least of the sort of ‘jumbos’ that used to come around regularly, but hotels still do make pricing errors and sometimes choose to honor them. My all-time favorite had to be the Le Meridien Khao Lak’s Ugandan Schillings rate which got me into their two-bedrooom oceanfront residence. A couple of years ago I booked the W San Diego’s Extreme Wow Suite for the price of a deeply discounted regular room. I’ve also missed out on plenty, I didn’t bother booking the Presidential Suite at the Conrad Bangkok (would have been great to pair with the Khao Lak villa!) because I had just gotten back from bangkok the week it was published… Other suggestions? The overall best technique varies by hotel and by chain, and it pays to investigate others’ experiences in advance. Kind of upgrades have y’all received and how have you gotten them?