How many awards can I place on hold.

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  1. LarryInNYC

    LarryInNYC Gold Member

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    Last night I called AA and placed the outbound one-way part of a planned trip to SE Asia on hold for five days. I'm still trying to locate return options, which seems like it's going to be harder than the outbound part.

    Right now, I see one possible return. If I take that one, I'd like to use a different outbound flight (otherwise the trip is longer than I really have time for).

    Can I have multiple "versions" of the same trip on hold at the same time?
     
  2. DestinationDavid
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    The system deletes duplicate bookings.
     
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    Okay, so what happens in this situation:

    I have holds on two one-way awards, date A outbound and date X returning. These aren't perfect as they have me away for close to six weeks but they're the best I've found and I don't want to lose them as I continue to search (and search, and search. . .)

    Now, I find a better outbound B that, together with return X is a four week trip, which is what the length I want. B is a similar but not identical route to A (say NYC - DFW - HKG - BKK instead of NYC - HKG -BKK) and 10 days later. For the time being, my best choice is B out and X back, and I want to place B on hold so as not to lose it. While it's on hold, however, I'm still searching for another return date Y which, combined with outbound A makes my perfect four week trip — the length and dates I want.

    Will I lose A when I put B on hold?

    Is that even understandable? I think the BA award site is sapping my sanity.

    BTW, thanks for the enormous amount of help and hand-holding you've provided during my quest for award tickets.
     
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    As long as the outbound flights are not on the same date, you can have both on hold. The only time the system think that it is duplicate is if you have trips booked on the same day.
     
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    Right. If they're not on the same day, they're not duplicate, hence my use of the term duplicate. ;)
     
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    I have built 6 trips in the same hour and held them all. I don't think you should have a problem.

    It was actually for a very similar flight too.
     
  7. LarryInNYC

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    I presumed you had a customer service rep on the phone to do this? Was it all in one phone call?
     
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    Not all 6 at once. I did a two variations of ORD-HNL-NRT-PEK. another call I did a couple of ORD-HKG. Whenever inspiration strikes I reserve it.
     
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    Hmmm. Via HNL! Didn't think of that. . .
     
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    It's difficult to secure, but not impossible.
     
  11. LarryInNYC

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    Sadly, neither HNL nor Anchorage have availability. Still trying to find the best outbound trans-Pacific hop.

    You don't know if DragonAir is an AA Partner? Not mentioned on their website, but I'm not sure whether it's part of Cathay Pacific or not.
     
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    No OW flights from ANC, so cannot be used as a gateway. HNL has JL to NRT.

    Dragonair (KA) is an AAdvantage partner and subsidiary of CX. Their business class service isn't too bad at all, I flew them HKG-FUK in June.
     
  13. LarryInNYC

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    That's funny, BA said they'd search JL and AA for that route (ANC - NRT). But they didn't find anything. Perhaps that was routing through the US.

    At this point, I'd be happy to fly on the outside of the aircraft.
     
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    Any flight between ANC and NRT would need to be via the US. Even AA relies heavily on AS flights from/to ANC.

    Are you still using BA's award tool or have you tried a pay service yet?
     
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    Using BA. I looked at Expert Flyer but (from a quick perusal) it looked like it doesn't support award space on Cathay Pacific or Japan Airlines, my most likely carriers for this trip. Is there a service that will make this easier?
     
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    KVS or Award Nexus can give you CX and JL inventory, but they're not free.
     
  17. LarryInNYC

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    Don't mind paying (well, not too much) if they'll actually do the trick. I'll take a look now, thanks! (And thanks again for all the help).
     
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    It's what we do here, no worries. Hopefully it's all worth the effort!
     
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    Are you trying to fly exclusively on CX or are you building a oneworld award?
     
  20. LarryInNYC

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    I *think* what I'm doing is trying to build a "partner award". That is, I want to spend 35,000 miles per person per one-way to Asia. I don't care what combination of airlines I use. I'm under the impression that I can combine different partner airlines on a single award as long as I only stop-over at the North American gateway. Is that correct?
     
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    Correct, yes you can use multiple partners to get to your destination. Other limits apply (fare by carrier between your origin and destination, maximum permitted mileage, etc...), though.
     
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    Yup. On my ORD-HNL on AA. HNL-NRT on JL and NRT-PEK was on CX. PEK-ORD was AA.

    If you need any help finding reward space let me know. I would love to help out a fellow MP' er.
     
  23. LarryInNYC

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    Thanks. I'll be back on this in an hour or two. I'm looking to fly NYC to SE Asia (DPS, CGK, BKK, KUL) sometime in July and then back again four weeks later, four PAX in economy using AAdvantage miles. I'm finding some availability but not much. Any suggestions most definitely appreciated.
     
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    Why not just do NRT-PEK direct on JL? Was there no space? HKG is a bit far out of your way to get to PEK.
     

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