HHonors Q4 Promo: Any Guesses?

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  1. NYCUA1K

    NYCUA1K Gold Member

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    Has anyone gotten wind of when the HHonors Q promo might start (started Nov 1 last year) and what might be offered? Since Q3 2013 promo was identical to Q3 2012 promo, my guess is that Q4 2013 promo will also copy last year's Q4 promo: 1000 HH points a night from Thursday to Monday.

    Please chime in with your guess until the official announcement, which can be posted here as soon as it is out to avoid creating a new thread...

    **Edited post to provide this link upfront:
    I have found a link to a cached pre-promo of the HHonors Q4 Promo
     
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  2. Mirror74

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    There is lot of info about HH Q4 promo... it will be “More Nights, More Points,” and run from October 10, 2013, to January 31, 2014. The promotion is pretty straightforward — you earn double base points for stays of two nights, triple base points for stays of three nights, and quadruple base points for stays of four or more nights. There is no official registration page yet...
     
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    Cool. Could you post a link?
     
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    Should be here, but its not working yet...
     
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    It is probably best promotion for 2013, as you can get up to 60-70 points per USD... (4 night; 10 base, 30 promotion, 5 Diamond, 5 Double-dip, 10 (2x points) specific hotel rates, 10 or more credit card)...
     
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    No problem, maybe another place cached the pre-promo. I will Google it.

    In the mean time, I am curious: Could you be clear about the meaning base points in this: "...earn double base points for stays of two nights, triple base points for stays of three nights, and quadruple base points for stays of four or more nights."?

    I suspect that you meant bonus points on base points and not base points, because that would make everyone an elite on the basis of base points!
     
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    Aha: you responded!
    4 night; 10 base, 30 promotion, means bonus points on base points,,,,

    Yup, it'll indeed be a great promo that I will take full advantage of as I have a 7-night stay booked at Hilton Singapore for November.:):cool:
     
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    Here's is a link to cached pre-promo
     
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    Yes, bonus points on the base points...
     
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  10. NYCUA1K

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    We can derive a general equation for estimating the total haul for a HH Diamond:

    Let,
    B= number of base points = eligible $X * 10
    n = number of nights = 2, 3, 4 (or more = 4)

    Promo total haul = B + (n-1)*B for promo bonus + 0.5B for elite bonus + 0.5B for points+points double-dipping + 1.2B if paying with AMEX Surpass (1.0B if Citi Reserve) + 1000 Diamond MyWay + 500 AMEX Co-branded CC booking

    = B * (1 + n - 1 + 0.5 + 0.5 +1.2) + 1,500
    = B * (n + 2.2) + 1,500

    (the above does not include taxes on the CC spend, which also earn bonus points: x10 or x12 for Citi or Surpass.

    So if I stay for n = 4 nights or more and my spend is $2,000, i.e.., B= 20,000 (will be more than that for my Nov Hilton SIN stay), the total haul (excluding taxes on the CC) will be

    B * (n + 2.2) + 1,500 = 20,000 * (4 + 2.2) + 1,500 = 20,000 * 6.2 + 1,500 = 125,500 points!

    It is a great promo that roughly doubled what I would have gotten from the example above without the promo.

    Remember to sign up!
     
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  11. Terry Yap

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    wow, and they say miles and points isn't rocket science ;)
     
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    There is very little in the physical world that isn't reducible to rock science.:)
    Anyway, the important bit for general public is really this, the minimum haul (with no CC, elite bonuses, etc):

    B + (n-1)*B for promo bonus, where, B is the number of base points; and n, the number of nights, which varies between 1 and 4.

    It is clear that when n = 1 (1 night), one gets zilch; just base points or standard earning. When n = 2, one get 2*B or double, and so on, up to a maximum of quadruple points from the promo.
     
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    Nice.
    Based on what Terry wrote, I presume that "rocket" was a typo, but as a rock scientist myself, I enthusiastically agree with this statement as written.
     
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    Totally underwhelming Hilton for a "stay" HHonor based elite.:(
     
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    This is a great a promo for top HHonors elites who book stays of 4 nights or more.
    My 9-night stay at Hilton Singapore in November will cost, before incidentals, US$2,650. The haul from that with this promo will be at least 165,000 HH points.
     
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    Yep, don't disagree, leaves the "one night" crowd out in the cold. Such is life.
     
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    Thank you.
     
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    Anyone know if this will stack with the United 1k miles / night at Conrad, Waldorf Astoria? And if so, can I keep points+points switched on instead of switching to points+fixed/variable (I already have UA as my preferred double dip partner)? It would be great to take advantage of points+points with the Q4 promotion as well as getting 1k / night to United since all my upcoming business stays will be at those 2 brands !

    Thanks!
     
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    I am pretty sure that one will get the Q4 promo points along with the UA miles for the Conrad/W=A promo regardless of one's double-dipping setting, because there is a precedent. The Q2 promo was concurrent with another UA miles promo and I got both the 50% bonus points for points+points double-dipping AND the miles.
     
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    The points for my last paid stay of the year, which was entirely during the Q4 promo, just posted and it is the kind of haul that helps fight 'devaluation'.

    2013/14 MORE NIGHTS MORE POINTS OFFER (Q4 Promo): 88,065

    Base Points: 29,355

    50% BONUS ON BASE POINTS (DOUBLE-DIPPING): 14,677

    DIAMOND VIP BONUS - 50% 2013: 14,677

    DIAMOND MYWAY BONUS: 1,000
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    SUBTOTAL POSTED: 147,774


    Pending points for paying with with Citi Reserve Visa @ 10HH/$ = 37,030

    GRAND TOTAL FOR STAY: 184,840

    The Q4 promo points account for about 50% of total...:cool:

    With this stay I also just requalified for Diamond with: 12 Stays/ 48 Nights / 123,889 BP, or I paid, on average, $1,032.41 per stay.
     
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    Last week I stayed at the Embassy Suites, San Antonio Riverwalk. It was my first stay at a Hilton property. Did a status match to Silver. Earned enough points for 2 nights at a Hampton. Not a bad promotion. :)

    2013/14 MORE NIGHTS MORE POINTS OFFER - 13724
    Base Points - 6862
    50% BONUS ON BASE POINTS - 3431
    SILVER VIP BONUS - 15% 2014 - 1029

    Total of 25,046 points earned.
     
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    I too did rake it in at Conrad Bali, where I stayed between Dec 30 and Jan 4 or 5 nights.

    2013/14 MORE NIGHTS MORE POINTS OFFER - 67,779
    Base Points - 11,593
    50% BONUS ON BASE POINTS - 11,296
    Diamond VIP BONUS - 50% 2014 - 11,298
    Diamond MyWay - 1000
    Then to top it all off,
    I paid the folio ($2,803) with my Citi Reserve visa @ 10HH/$ - 28,030
    In addition to the Citi Reserve promo bonus for paying with this card - 2,500

    Total points earned for the stay: 144,494

    I also did have reward stays at Waldorf Astoria Shanghai, Conrad Bangkok, and Conrad Hong Kong for which I got points on incidentals, as well as bonus points from the Q4 promo, which accounted for about 50% of the total haul. As a result, I now have 243,924 HHonors points in the bank, after depleting it at the end of last year, and it is just February, with lots stays planned for the year!

    Not a bad promo at all, especially for extended stays at high-end properties...:)
     

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