Hawaii bill SB1186 ($10 tax/free hotel night)

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  1. HaveMilesWillTravel
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    Oh! I guess we will have to pay this tax, unless Hyatt pays it for us, which seems a bit unlikely, especially when it comes from the state to the tax payer, sad only that this means more taxes on top of other charges, even when it is supposed to be a free night!;):confused:
     
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    News to me...thanks! I hope that in the future we don't see what are essentially YQ charges for hotel awards as well.
     
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    Agreed. If we have to pay it, then so be it. I do take some comfort in the fact that it is a state issue and not Hyatt slapping us with extra fees.
     
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    Well... yes. My upcoming 9 night stay will then cost me an extra $90. I'll try to make it a point to spend $90 less on other stuff while in HI :D
     
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    It already exists for chains (e.g., Starwood) that don't waive resort fees on award stays.
     
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    Indeed it does...:rolleyes:however C&P rates are excluded from this (ie the $90 I pay to stay at the Moana is $90 flat)
    Seriously...no more shopping sprees at costco for me now ;)
     
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    All you have to do is avoid the International Market Place or any ABC store
     
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    Not going to Oahu, so no int'l marketplace for me. And I think the only thing I ever bought there was a cheap "disposable" carry-on roll aboard for $20. I am more thinking about skipping "fancy" dinner one night or two and making do with Hyatt lounge food. :)
     
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    Unless the lounge food has improved in quality I think I will have to cut back some where else.
     
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    I've never been to the GH Kauai, so don't know what to expect food-wise. But I know ultimately I am not suddenly going to have an extra $90 in my paycheck to spend, so something has to give. And to make it a point, it might as well be money I'd otherwise have spent in HI. Cutting $10/day out of my two person vacation "budget" won't be hard, and I don't think we'll suffer because of it.

    That said, we don't even know yet for sure how Hyatt is handling this new tax.
     
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    SPG's stance appears to be that award nights aren't free nights, and so the $10 is not collected and passed on to the HI tax authorities (presumably the reimbursement for the room from the loyalty program to the property is taxed as any revenue room would be).
     
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    Maybe it's time to charge one cent for free nights?
     
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    Then the state of HI will impose a minimum tax of $10 on all nights.
     
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    Do you know for a fact that you are going to be charged? Or is this all just a guess at this point?

    GP pays the hotel for award nights, and if it's done like SPG, award nights are not considered "free" for the purpose of this law. However, if you are staying on a buy x nights and get y nights free sort of rate, then those "y" nights are free nights as far as I know. (which is kind of dumb because the promotional rate for the paid nights is usually higher than it would be if it didn't include the free nights.)

    -David
     

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