First class travel from the US to South East Asia.

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  1. petrapenang

    petrapenang Silver Member

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    I'm looking to travel from New Jersey to Malaysia in July and have UA and US Air miles to use for first class on Star Alliance partners, preferably Thai/SIA. What would be the best way/site to search for availability of Star Alliance award travel?

    BTW, do they allow infants in first/business class?
     
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    Not going to find F availability on SQ especially for a long-haul segment. There is a possibility that F space might open a day or two before the flight but don't have your hopes high...Thai has pretty good availability in First to/from Europe and certain Asian cities such as NRT, HND, and HKG. The downside with Thai is that they don't have any F cabins on their LAX-ICN-BKK route just C and Y.

    Personally, I think the best way to search for *A availability is UA.com with KVS at the same time. It's the way I search for awards so..

    The only airline that doesn't allow infants in premium cabins is Malaysia Air..
     
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  3. MileMonster

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    You can use the UA for UA but I don't count on it for US miles. The Aeroplan website has consistently come through for me when redeeming my US miles.
     
  4. yaychemistry

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    The UA Award Search (formerly CO) is pretty good at seeing which flights are available. The only problem, is that it's not always the best at putting connecting flights together...
    That is, there may be an ORD-NRT-BKK itinerary that's available (say, NH F then TG F) that you wouldn't see by searching ORD-BKK. But if you searched each leg individually (ORD-NRT and then NRT-BKK) you would find the flights. You would then have to call in to book.

    Also, on UA, a "stop-over" that is under 24 hours can be legally booked as a connecting flight, rather than a strict stop-over. The phone agents might object, but just ask them to put it in the computer and see if it will price correctly.
     
  5. petrapenang

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    Thanks all for the advise. I looked up united.com and found JFK-FRA-BKK-PEN but business-first-business. Airlines are Lufthansa and Thai. I can't find first class between JFK-FRA. If I do find such opening between now and the flying date, would I be able to change my literary?

    One thing I noticed is that there's no additional charge for my infant travelling versus when a lag has a UA flight, there's a charge and tax for my baby. Is that normal? I'm hesitating to call in UA to book for this reason.
     
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  6. petrapenang

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    For some reason Aeroplan is not giving me more selections than UA. Perhaps I should look on a per lag basis via Aeroplan?
     
  7. yaychemistry

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    You might be able to find luck on EWR-BRU-FRA... it would add another stop and it's UA's F, so the service probably isn't as good as LH. The BRU-FRA leg would be intra-Europe "Business Class" (e.g. a regular coach seat, with the middle seat blocked off), but it would be a short hop.
     
  8. MileMonster

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    Exactly. I check my longest leg first.
     
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  9. petrapenang

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    Would the LH business be better than UA's F?
     
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    I found two seats on Thai (TG #911) in first LHR-BKK for this September...if you can nail those, and find something EWR or JFK-LHR, you will have it made!
     
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    You can definitely change your itinerary on the award redemption. The question is if it will cost you money. Take a look at the award fee chart (https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/mileageplus/awards/travel/ticketing.aspx) to see which category you will fall into.
     
  12. petrapenang

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    Thanks for the tip. Found first from LHR-BKK but nothing from JFK-LHR in first. Darn....
     
  13. yaychemistry

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    I personally don't have any experience with either, but from what I've gathered from other forums.. the UA F seat is much nicer than LH Business, however the level of service is probably a little better on LH.

    Someone who knows more than I should probably chime in - or I think there are a few threads on this topic so you might search around (I believe in the Star Alliance or Lufthansa forums).
     
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    I haven't experienced either, either :)confused:) but I feel like I recently read something similar somewhere on the threads as well. I have always been poking around for SE Asia tickets on *A. So far I'm looking at J-F-J one way and all J on the way back. I am hoping things will change as the time gets closer to booking/flying.
     
  15. petrapenang

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    After much research, I can't find any EWR/JFK-LHR in first so business it is... :(
    Just booked JFK-FRA-BKK-PEN in BUS-FIR-BUS class but got an email from UA : "Flight Ticketing Delay"

    Anyone had this before?
     
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    What aircraft is the FRA-BKK flight?
     
  17. petrapenang

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    777-300ER, wish it's the A380 but bot bad.
     
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    What's the flight number?

    TG runs a few 777-300ER's (77W) that were leased from Jet Airways, that have pretty awesome interiors. Unfortunately UA lists all of TG's 773 as a 77W's.
     
  19. petrapenang

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    It's TG 923.
    If UA lists all of TG's 773 as a 77W's, isn't that incorrect listing and would give me some leverage if any "discussions' should arise with them while/before travelling?
     
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    Looks like TG923 is mostly the 77W, so you're in luck! I was on the same airplane type (BKK-NRT) last month and it was a pretty amazing seat. The seat is a nearly fully enclosed cabin - complete with a personal door that you can close.

    I sort of doubt UA's listing of 773s as 77Ws will give you much leverage at all - but it might be worth a shot if something comes up.
     
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    I think you just raised my blood pressure ten fold... :D
    I'm new at this so I don't quite understand the 77W. I usually know them by 737, 747, 767, 777... etc. Is 77W like a another specific model of a series (eg. the 777 series or 474 series and 777-200 or 777-300 as models)?
     
  22. petrapenang

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    SQ is a PAIN... and my own country's airline (MAS) sux for that limitation!!!
     
  23. viguera
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    It's the 300ER.
     
  24. MSPeconomist
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    For a lap child, the fare on any international ticket should normally be 10% of the fare for your cabin (sometimes calculated as whatever fares are available when you pay and sometimes based on the full unrestricted and refundable fare) plus all taxes and fees. If you don't pay in advance, be prepared to pay at the airport.
     
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    I believe UA's 777-300ER seats have 6" more of pitch than the A380 (Then again, UA doesn't have many Airbuses)
     

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