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Discussion in 'United Airlines | MileagePlus' started by Wandering Aramean, Oct 27, 2011.
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Just announced on the earnings call this morning. No details, but definitely good news.
So while DL catches up with its own E+, UA can catch up with WiFi. Given the smaller size of E+ on DL, hopefully UA will come out ahead?
Now being reported that UA is dumping LiveTV and going with a Panasonic solution: http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/runway-girl/2011/10/breaking-panasonic-wins-massiv.html.
ETA: And now further updated that it might be a split order rather than dumping LiveTV.
This is huge news. My understanding is that the LiveTV system has seen a declining "take" rate across the domestic system and very, very few customers opt-in on stage lengths under 1,500mi unless a major television event is being broadcast. I think the writing was on the wall once new 737 deliveries stopped going in for DTV installs and the plan to retrofit the 757-300s was bagged.
The Panasonic eX3 system is a very intriguing platform... I hope this is part of the deal. The best part about the eX3 system? All-new seats.
They don't fit in the Koito seats? Or is rework too expensive?
This is what I had heard, that LiveTV was not making much money. Weren't there some unforeseen costs with it as well?
It's a fundamentally different system which includes IFE equipment integrated into the seat design. Check this site out.
The marginal revenue increase they gain with the system is probably not worth the fuel it costs to carry the additional weight.
Blog has been updated to note that perhaps LiveTV isn't getting dumped entirely.
Yeah...I just updated my post above, too.
Hard to believe that a split order makes sense on this front.
How does that fit in with the re-certification of the Koito seats they announced? Will the CO aircraft keep LiveTV with Koito seats and the UA aircraft get the new (Panasonic) system?
Don't think it affects anything on the Koito front.
But right now it does appear the order is going to be split between PMUA and PMCO aircraft.
I just want to watch a football game at 32,000 feet
I can certainly verify that on my weekly flights between CLE-EWR - you almost never see anyone use the DirectTV other than when it is free in F.
My experience with this system is limited to exactly one flight between SEA and EWR last year, and it was free since I was in F. Quite frankly, I don't think I would use it in coach if I had to pay for it. My iPad is loaded with stuff I preselected and I can watch it when I want (no interruptions for announcements, for example). I am also not a big TV sports fan, so that aspect doesn't interest me, but I can understand/respect that it's more important for others.
FWIW it seems that the announcement was actually that the full mainline fleet will be configured, not just the mainline domestic fleet. Cannot update the thread title, but the expectation is that the satellite-based service will be global in coverage, not just domestic. That's pretty significant.
LH and TK are expanding inflight wifi and interactive TV (TK) next year but the satellite footprints are over the Atlantic for the moment along with Europe and North America. Pacific will still be a while.
Just buy a ticket for any seat in the Meadowlands which costs under $300.
What does having two/three systems do to our chances of being able to have a single United monthly plan we can use once this is deployed fleet wide?
Considering refunds and multiple flight segments are an impossibility for the LiveTV system, I won't hold my breath (as much as I'd like to see a monthly plan).
They really should attach the info to your FF# (or PNR if you don't have a FF#) and allow you to purchase LiveTV for your entire trip rather than swiping your card twice (going say, SEA-IAH-FLL).
I don't think that they cannot do multi-flight on the TV system, just that they don't. Plus, the billing for the wifi will be via the browser, not the CC reader. I wouldn't write off multi-use passes just yet.
True, but not doing so makes me question their intentions. In my opinion they're leaving money on the table by not having entire trips with LiveTV paid for once. Is the whole thing a giant experiment that will eventually go away?
United Continental Holdings Selects Panasonic to Install Wi-Fi
Link to press release
I'd like for them to update their LiveTv system to the Version 2 Software/Platform so I can make use of the damned Closed Captioning...
About ** time