Election Call Whose aircraft have been chartered by the leaders?

Discussion in 'Air Canada | Aeroplan' started by milchap, Mar 25, 2011.  |  Print Topic

  1. milchap
    Original Member

    milchap Gold Member

    Messages:
    27,636
    Likes Received:
    148,038
    Status Points:
    20,020
    Anyone know?
     
  2. tcook052
    Original Member

    tcook052 Silver Member

    Messages:
    518
    Likes Received:
    637
    Status Points:
    695
    http://m.theglobeandmail.com/news/p...-battle-begins/article1939693/?service=mobile

    Team Ignatieff
    There will be no scramble for a plane this time – the Liberals have a Boeing 737 from Calgary-based Enerjet.

    Team Layton
    The media were invited to tour their state-of-the-art war room in January; the decals are ordered for the campaign plane, which they are leasing from Air Canada.

    Team Harper
    Are you kidding? They’ve been ready forever – their Air Canada plane is on standby
     
    East_Yorker likes this.
  3. Cage
    Original Member

    Cage Silver Member

    Messages:
    67
    Likes Received:
    53
    Status Points:
    270
    Harper 1 being prep'd for service:
    campaign ride.jpg
    I'm just the messenger, not the photographer or supporter. In short-> Don't shoot Mr Quinn, don't shoot!!!:D
     
    c_9 and akide like this.
  4. c_9
    Original Member

    c_9 Silver Member

    Messages:
    90
    Likes Received:
    103
    Status Points:
    335
    a) please don't let this thread turn into a political discussion. There are plenty of websites for that!
    b) let's post photos of the campaign planes visiting our cities instead!
     
  5. Cage
    Original Member

    Cage Silver Member

    Messages:
    67
    Likes Received:
    53
    Status Points:
    270
    This Press Release from Enerjet is one of the strangest I have read in a long time:
    http://www.enerjet.ca/readarticle.php?id=28
    The second paragraph makes no sense at all. None of Enerjet's aircraft have been affected by recent global situations. Their one and only 737-700 was wet leased in Europe for the Summer Season, but this was implemented months ago, so Enerjet knew they did not have an aircraft until early April. Also known situation was their leased 737-800 required maintenance and preparation prior to being returned to lessor.
     
  6. tomh009
    Original Member

    tomh009 Gold Member

    Messages:
    2,258
    Likes Received:
    1,819
    Status Points:
    1,220
    I think they are just trying to make it sound more impressive ... :rolleyes:
     
  7. Cage
    Original Member

    Cage Silver Member

    Messages:
    67
    Likes Received:
    53
    Status Points:
    270
    No I think Enerjet is covering for the Liberals. Any standby contract would have included the provision that Enerjet aircraft could be unavailble due previous commitments (the liberal get a price break for not having an aircraft on standby) and surely this situation could have been foreseen one month ago by Enerjet. Enerjet surely should have advised the federal Liberals of this situation ("hey our aircraft is in the middle of a turnaround from Winter to Summer schedule and won't be available until early April, would another aircraft suffice").

    Fast forward to today where the Tories and NDP aircraft are criss-crossing the nation while the Liberals are stuck on an extended Ontario tour until the airplane is ready. The media is asking questions wondering if this another example of Liberals being unprepared for an election that they called. Liberal press secretary asks Enerjet to issue a Press Release to explain the situation and offer a plausible excuse that does not implicate Liberal and poor planning.

    A similar situation happened many years ago (late 80s) with my Uncle. He was flying a Learjet charter for the leader of a BC provincial party. The leader was scheduled to fly into the okanagan where he was going to be intercepted by a hostile audience and debate. The press secretary went to the pilot (my Uncle) and asked if the weather in the okanagan would prevent their plane from landing. Pilot advised that weather was not a factor and plane could land. Press secretary said something to the effect of "your not understanding me, adjust your plans to not land and go onto the next destination with the reason that weather at original landing site was unsafe". Plane continued onto the next site and pilot filed the report looking like a weeney (his words) for not being able to land in inclement weather.
     
    tcook052 likes this.
  8. DanJ
    Original Member

    DanJ Gold Member

    Messages:
    582
    Likes Received:
    2,356
    Status Points:
    1,125
  9. canucklehead
    Original Member

    canucklehead Gold Member

    Messages:
    5,895
    Likes Received:
    22,059
    Status Points:
    11,070
    that's not a bad shot of the plane with the Liberal logo. Wonder if its a stick-on as I would not think they painted the tail and body for the 6 week campaign
     
  10. c_9
    Original Member

    c_9 Silver Member

    Messages:
    90
    Likes Received:
    103
    Status Points:
    335
    I think it depends on what was on the tail beforehand! An innocuous logo would be fine, but some symbols or words would carry baggage during a campaign (think "BC Air" rather than something national, for example).

    I don't know how much a full paint costs, but a tail and a couple patches as shown must be way simpler and cheaper. Could be Enerjet threw it into the deal to take the business from Air Canada?
     
  11. c_9
    Original Member

    c_9 Silver Member

    Messages:
    90
    Likes Received:
    103
    Status Points:
    335
  12. tomh009
    Original Member

    tomh009 Gold Member

    Messages:
    2,258
    Likes Received:
    1,819
    Status Points:
    1,220
  13. canucklehead
    Original Member

    canucklehead Gold Member

    Messages:
    5,895
    Likes Received:
    22,059
    Status Points:
    11,070
    personally, I like the gold trim.
     
  14. DanJ
    Original Member

    DanJ Gold Member

    Messages:
    582
    Likes Received:
    2,356
    Status Points:
    1,125
    I wonder if they even have it for that long. It was speculated on avcanada that the Flair aircraft was only to cover a couple week period between Enerjet sending one plane back to whoever and getting another one from whoever else. Would seem like a pain to have to put logos on a second plane for a few weeks, but I'm guessing that Enerjet doesn't want to share the revenue for the entire charter with Flair if they can help it as well.
     
  15. slaman
    Original Member

    slaman Silver Member

    Messages:
    18
    Likes Received:
    11
    Status Points:
    105
    Cool before and after shots!
     
  16. milchap
    Original Member

    milchap Gold Member

    Messages:
    27,636
    Likes Received:
    148,038
    Status Points:
    20,020
    OTTAWA -- There is a tradition in the first week of every election campaign for reporters aboard the campaign planes to give the planes snazzy monickers.
    Campaigns of yore have included such beauties as Prayer Force One (Stockwell Day's Canadian Alliance plane in 2000) and Sweater Vest Jet (Stephen Harper in 2008).
    This time around, the tradition continues.
    Harper's 2010 jet -- leased from Air Canada -- will be forever known as Scaremong Air, a reference to the main Conservative campaign theme a vote for the Liberals is a vote for a coalition with the NDP and Bloc Québécois. (Or the separatists and the socialists, as Harper likes to call them.)
    Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff's jet -- from Calgary's Enerjet -- is flying the friendly skies known as UnnecessAir. That is a reference to the fact many feel this election is unnecessary.
    And finally, Jack Layton and the NDP. Their plane, like the Tories' plane on lease from Air Canada, is airborne with the name Hipster Air.
    As one NDP campaign plane passenger said: "It's broken, but we'll fix it." Layton is still hobbling around with a cane after hip surgery less than a month before the election started. He also keeps saying Ottawa is broken, but the NDP will fix it. (Winnipeg Free Press)
     
  17. Conservsative plane= liars express
    liberal plane= peoples express
    NDP plane= socialist express
    Bloc bus=square head express
     
  18. milchap
    Original Member

    milchap Gold Member

    Messages:
    27,636
    Likes Received:
    148,038
    Status Points:
    20,020
    The liberals should have used a prototype 787 aka the Dreamliner. :D
     
  19. In that comparison the tories should now rent the SWA plane with the hole in it.
     
  20. milchap
    Original Member

    milchap Gold Member

    Messages:
    27,636
    Likes Received:
    148,038
    Status Points:
    20,020
    :D
     
  21. c_9
    Original Member

    c_9 Silver Member

    Messages:
    90
    Likes Received:
    103
    Status Points:
    335
    Again - please take any political sniping you might be considering elsewhere, friends. Threads like this devolve verrrrry quickly. :)
     
    Exit Row likes this.
  22. As best I understand we are discussing aircraft and their names,etc.

    Paranoia is curable :D
     
    milchap likes this.
  23. En-Route
    Original Member

    En-Route Silver Member

    Messages:
    260
    Likes Received:
    165
    Status Points:
    470
  24. The plane is trustworthy.....the party's main opponent is not. One reason AC may not have leased from AC is the fact that Duncan Dee the number two or three guy in the company came out and declared himself a Tory. Good luck keeping his job if the tories lose the election...he should get his CV ready
     
  25. En-Route
    Original Member

    En-Route Silver Member

    Messages:
    260
    Likes Received:
    165
    Status Points:
    470
    Good reason to fly AC and buy another ticket,good reason not to buy a ticket.
    With 30,000+ employees,there must be 1 or 2 voting liberals amongst that group.
     

Share This Page