Earning rates on VS flights announced: Tier 1 partner

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  1. Wandering Aramean
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    The deal closed today for DL to buy the shares representing the 49% stake in Virgin Atlantic. Not much of a surprise that Virgin Atlantic is being classified as a Tier 1 partner for SkyMiles earning given their hopeful JV for TATL operations. All fares earn at least 100% credit on both sides of the deal, with class-of-service and elite bonus earning, too.

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    Read more:
    http://boardingarea.com/thewanderin...irgin-atlantic-reciprocity-details-announced/
    http://news.delta.com/index.php?s=43&item=2026
    http://www.usatoday.com/story/today...c-to-begin-passenger-sharing-in-july/2451833/
     
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    Also not surprised with this. Delta wants to make companies they own parts of profitable. Now I'm just waiting for VS flights to be bookable with SkyMiles.
     
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    This should be interesting quickly. No surprise about Teir 1.
    Dave
     
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    Should be on the charts either end of this week or early next. Both June 29 and July 3 are dates being suggested.
     
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    Yeah, noticed that. thinking there is serious potential in HKG-SYD on VS.
     
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    Interesting. Any news if Flying Club Elites will be eligible for domestic upgrades on Delta?
     
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    I've haven't seen anything suggesting that they will.
     
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    I doubt it as well, esp. as there is no way for DL Elites to be upgraded on VS flights, since they are basically all TATL from the US.
     
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    Don't Flying Blue elites get upgrades on Delta domestic or am I wrong?
     
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    To the best of my knowledge, the answer is no. AS elites can get upgraded on DL (and vice versa) in theory, after each airline's own elites have been upgraded.

    I would guess a Flying Blue would get upgraded only IF:

    Y is over sold, all DL and AS elites have been upgraded, AND they need to upgrade a partner elite to open a Y seat. I've never seen this happen domestically. In part, because DL has complimentary upgrades for medallions starting 5 days out.

    That said, as a BA Gold/OW Emerald (AA Exec Plat), I was once upgraded on a DFW -ELP in the situation I described above.

    As a DL Plat, I was upgraded HEL - AMS on KLM in that same situation.

    Dave
     
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    Actually I think FB Elites can get domestic upgrades, but are towards the bottom of the list.

    Some related FT discussions:
    http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/flyi...her-partners/1139302-upgrades-delta-back.html
    http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta-skymiles/1459288-upgrades-skyteam-elites.html
     
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    As Virgin Australia (similar relationship with DL to VS) elites do not have upgrade benefits AFAIK, I doubt VS would get them... That said, it does exist for AS elites, so anything is possible.

    :)
     
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    Agreed, but given that Delta now owns 49% of Virgin Atlantic, the relationship is a lot closer than any of their partners
     
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    One thing to remember is that the various Virgins have entirely different ownership structures and regulatory conditions. So, for example, Virgin America was expressly prohibited from sharing a FF program with Virgin Atlantic. The deals with DL for each Virgin brand, if they exist, will be entirely independent of one another unless the regulatory and shareholding situations change.
     
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    Very good point. Also, at least in the US, regulatory conditions on ownership would impact a similar deal.

    (tongue in cheek) but should this mean that DL will start a take over of Virgin America?
     
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    I was not implying the Virgin-affliated carriers are unified entities, just that DL has relationships with each of them that involve some perks, but not as many as those offered with some partners such as AS.

    :)
     
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    That could happen. The restrictions would be eliminated were DL to become sole owner.
    I understood that, sorry if I implied otherwise. I pointed it out because not all readers of the thread might be aware of the convoluted ownership, control and restrictions that apply to the various Virgins.
     

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