Definitive Guide to SkyTeam's Long-Haul Seating

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  1. DLNYC
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    Hi all,

    With SeatGuru becoming less and less accurate as the days go on, I think it might be useful to create a thread devoted solely to reviewing the best and the worst of SkyTeam's long-haul offerings.

    As a DL elite, I found this KLM thread particularly useful when selecting business class seats on KLM. Let's try to expand said thread's purpose to all SkyTeam airlines.

    I need your help! Please send me your seat reviews for ST aircraft you've flown. This thread will take time to develop--please excuse its current appearance.

    This thread will only be a success if it becomes a group effort, so in the meantime, please send me feedback and suggestions.

    Tentative format:

    Delta:

    75E
    BusinessElite:
    best seats: 2A/B/C/D
    member quotes
    mixed review:
    worst seats:1A/B/C/D
    member quotes

    Economy:
    best seats: 19C, 36C/D
    mixed review: 18D/E, 19A
    worst seats:

    76T

    764

    etc

    Air France

    747-400

    etc
     
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    DELTA AIR LINES

    747-400

    75E: Found primarily on TATL flights, as well as JFK-LAX/SFO.
    Business:
    Best seats:
    Mixed reviews: The bulkhead seats have slightly restricted legroom in the seated position, though 1D can feel like a cosy cocoon in full recline.
    Worst seats:

    Economy:
    Best seats:
    -19C has lots of extra legroom and is right next to the door to allow for fast deplaning.
    -36C/D have as much legroom as 19C. There are outlets located on the floor.
    Mixed review:
    -18 E/D-these seats have extra legroom. These seats have a porthole in place of a window, as they are right next to the exit door.
    Worst seats:
    -19A/F, 36A/F: While these seats are exit row, the emergency slide protrude greatl into one's leg space. These seats can be extremely uncomfortable after the first hour.

    767-300: Found on TATL and TPAC flights from the west coast.

    Business:
    Best seats: On the 6-row business class configuration, the F/G seats have slightly more legroom than the rest. This can be an advantage when in full-recline mode.

    Worst seats: 6C serves as a pilot rest, which can be bothersome to 6E, and possibly 6B.

    767-300 (ex-Gulf, 76G)

    767-300T: Small subfleet of 7 aircraft found on TATL flights of 12 or more hours which have been updated with nose-to-tail AVOD.

    767-400: These planes have not been updated with flat beds, featuring Delta's old "cradle" seats.

    767-400 (76D): These planes have been updated with flat-bed seating. Found on all LHR flights, and occasionally appear on other TATL flights. AVOD can be found throughout the aircraft.

    Business:
    Best seats:
    -I tend to prefer the odd-numbered A or D seats, as these have a small table between the aisle and the seat. The even-numbered seats have the table between the seat and the window.
    Worst seats:
    -Seat 9A is reserved for crew rest, which can be bothersome for those immediately surrounding this seat.
    -Some might find the noise and light from the forward galley to be mildly bothersome in the first 3 rows.

    Economy:
    Best seats:
    -30 A/B/F/G: These seats have tons of extra legroom, due to the exit. A small slide protrudes into your space in 30A/G, though it is far less bothersome than the slides on the 757. I gets extremely cold by these exits during flight. Heavy socks and blankets are recommended.

    Worst Seats:

    777-200ER

    777-200LR

    A330-200

    A330-300
     
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    AIR FRANCE

    A330-200

    A340-300

    A380-800

    747-400

    747-400 CIO

    777-200
    Business (Affaires)
    Best seats:
    -3A/B/E/F/G/K/L: These bulkhead seats have extra legroom. 3A/B/K/L are reserved for FB Plats (?). Since AF's Affaires seats are angled lie-flats, some find the lack of a wall at one's feet leads to increased slipping.
    -The forward mini-cabin (rows 3-5) has a slightly more private feel than the rear Business cabin. It can also be quieter, as there is no noise from the Premium Voyageur cabin.
    Worst seats:
    8A/K have only one window, while other window seats have two.

    Premium Voyageur
    Best seats: The bulkhead seats have much more legroom.

    Worst Seats:

    777-300

    777-300 CIO

    777-300 (77W)
     
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    KLM

    747-400

    747-400 Combi
    Business:
    Best seats:
    -4 E/F: great seats, both have ample space in front and storage room is behind the seats. -ande777emt
    -1A/B/J/K: excellent views with ample legroom, increased by the fact that nobody will be reclining into you. Extremely private feel. Drawbacks: Closet can be noisy during boarding and descent; video screen with moving map could be bothersome during night flights. No overhead storage, though it shouldn't be a problem finding it somewhere else in the cabin. -DLNYC

    777-200ER
    Business:
    Worst seats:
    -row 1 AC and GJ: they are right next to the C bathrooms and their use can be disturbing to sleep. -ande777emt


    Economy Comfort:

    Economy:

    777-300 (77W)

    MD-11 Version 1

    MD-11 Version 2
     
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    ALITALIA

    A330-200

    767-300

    777-200
     
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    KL 772- Avoid row 1 AC and GJ, they are right next to the C bathrooms and their use can be disturbing to sleep.

    KL 74M-Row 4 E,F are great seats, both have ample space in front and storage room is behind the seats.

    SU 763 Row 1 A,B have lots of legroom as door 1 is right in front of them.
     
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    Question on the new upcoming DL A330-200 to be used TATL in the summer.

    In Economy, they will be 2-4-2, so AB CDFG HJ

    Row show 10 shows up though as AB C G HJ.

    So nothing shows for Row 10 DF....not even unavilable or preferred, etc. Just nothing. So what is actually there? Or are they blocked for babies/bassinets?

    Same goes for Rows 38-40, but its AB CD G HJ. So no F.

    Or is this some part of the new Economy Plus layout coming ;) ?
     
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    I believe row 10 is missing two seats on the 332 -- I've only flown the 333 but I remember lots of discussion about this in an old NW forum. IIRC, most seat maps don't show it correctly as to the actual placement of the seats that are there.
     
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    Thanks all for the responses--much appreciated. I've been away on a business trip but will get to consolidating new info as soon as I can.
     
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    Thanks. Will see in August I guess....
     
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    On KL 747s, I spent plenty of time in Y in the past, and there my first choice was 10E, followed by 11E-16E. No window but very useful extra space for storage/legs between the seat and the wall.
     
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