CO 123 diverts to SWF due to low fuel

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  1. bagspacked

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    I'm sitting on the Tarmac here as my CPH-EWR flight ran low on fuel and had to divert. Must have been pretty serious as Newburgh is not that far from newark and I'm sure we could have landed straight in with a low fuel declaration. Before the flight the captain was in the boarding lounge doing some calculations, apparently there was a very strong headwind and so they needed to load more fuel, but must have not put on enough. Now the fuel guys are taking their sweet time here, but they say about a half hour or so.

    The least they could do is offer those of us in BF a drink while we wait...

    For added excitement, a state police helicopter just landed literally right next to us. They are either showing off or concerned about Danish stowaways hopping off here without clearing customs ;)
     
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    If the weather in/around EWR is even close to as bad as what I've been hearing then the decision to land at SWF rather than try to sequence into EWR is not at all surprising.
     
  3. tom911
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    I've been diverted there before on AA when thunderstorms closed JFK. We were back in the air, refueled, about an hour later.
     
  4. bagspacked

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    It was about an hour on the ground at swf and then we were up and down to ewr in about 35 mins. So about 2 hrs late all in. Not horrendous but everyone else in my cabin must have misconnected- customs lines were huge and it seemed like mostly Europeans without global entry.
     
  5. tom911
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    Hopefully there's some capacity out there to get them to their final destinations on a Saturday. Probably have a better shot today than they would on a Friday afternoon.
     
  6. UA191

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    I can't tell you how many times this has happened on BCN-EWR. Quite a common occurrence.
     
  7. tom911
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    Any of these diversions with fully-fueled aircraft that run into headwinds?
     
  8. NYBanker
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    Yes - BCN is a stretch destination for the 757s.
     
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    I've had an SFO flight diverted to OAK once because of weather/fuel. The delay was about 3 hours.
     
  10. sfo1
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    So you think those of you in BF should have been offered a drink for your inconvenience? Are those in BF being inconvenienced more so that those in economy? Ah, self importance.
     
  11. mowogo
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    No, they are not self important, CO has decided that they are the only ones that matter in the new scheme ;)
     
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    It's not about who was more or less inconvenienced, it's about meeting a certain level of service. In a Utopian society they would have served everyone a drink. In actuality, they served nobody a drink. But it's pretty easy for the FA to walk around the front cabin (of 16 pax) and ask if anybody would like a drink. In coach (~160 pax?), that would involve a beverage cart, credit card readers (drinks are 6-7 dollars on that flight), and risks delaying our departure if the fueling finishes early (to put away and secure cart, etc.). In BF, you get better service, a higher FA: passenger ratio, a bigger seat, and free drinks, for a higher price. I paid that price, so I expected that service.

    I'm sure that there were some coach passengers who were on tight connections. They were MORE inconvenienced than I. In a Utopian society they would have let us all off the plane in the order of our subsequent flight, keeping BF passengers sitting until those E- pax could leave. In a Utopian society the plane probably wouldn't have had to divert, all the other EWR-bound planes would have gotten out of our way so we could coast in to the runway on fumes. But obviously that's not how the world works. I don't think it's being self-important to acknowledge that.
     
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  13. Hmm - sounds like true EU socialism at work. Is it not good that everyone is equal ? Komrade Lenin would be proud.

    Maybe, just maybe - in a TRUE Utopian society, CO would have just run out of fuel mid-air and let everyone, BF and those behind, suffer a common socialist fate :)
     
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    Everybody knows if you fly BF you're not affected by gravity, silly man. :)
     
  15. sfo1
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    But the OP since he was in BF, would have been first in the life rafts, damm the woman and children.
     
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    But you are getting the coveted SWF - EWR line.
     
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    Yes I did pick up one new airport on this trip at least ;-)
     
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    The 757-200 was never intended to be used for such operations and like stated earlier, they barely have the range.

    There are dozens diversions like this yearly, CO has been marketed "non stop flights" for years aimed at business travelers from OSL/ARN/CPH etc. At the end of the day, you have a much less chance of making it to Newark on time than if you're traveling with a competitor that has proper equipment
     
  19. rggale
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    A couple dozen fuel stops per YEAR? Really, that's no big deal. I mean, in the grand scheme of things I'd much rather fly point-point than connect. An unusually long fuel stop would burn about an hour. A connection in FRA would certainly burn more than that. I've had two fuel diversions on 752 TATL flights, and we knew they were going to happen based upon the strong headwinds. Both were less than 45 mins in YYT, wheels down to wheels up.
     
  20. Scottrick
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    Well, there are separate life rats at each door, and one of those doors is much closer to BF than Y. Not to mention you have to get past the drape. :eek:
     

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