Never mind the behavior issues, the stares or anything of the sort... this is more about the logistics of the whole thing, as far as whether or not it's even possible (or allowed) in some of today's cabins. This is of course self-serving. My son is now 2+ and we're starting to consider much longer trips that include him. I don't have any problems doing a transcon in Y having him in a car seat or a CARES harness, but we all know that's really a long flight... I shot an email to mommypoints and of course she's on the same boat, considering that some of these seats are just not geared towards car seats or harnesses, and some of the threads on FT actually imply that some airlines will not allow specific restrains on premium cabins, be it because of airbags or seat layouts or whatever. So that presents a rather interesting "problem" for some people... I mean, Singapore or Lufthansa can open all the F award availability in the world, but unless you can actually sit a child up front somehow, you're in the back of the bus. Not something that I'm contemplating when looking at EWR-[somewhere]-BKK/SIN/whatever. The BoardingArea post about this came out a couple of days ago is here: http://boardingarea.com/blogs/mommy...st-international-businessclass-flight-part-2/ The latest on FT is almost 2 years old though, so you have to wonder how much of this is accurate and how much will change with the introduction of new F/C hard product by airlines, whether it's in new aircraft or just retooled old hardware. As per FT: Code: DL: Carseat allowed in all cabins. No info on CARES. UA: Carseat allowed in all cabins. CARES allowed only in old C (only the 777s). LH: Carseat allowed in all cabins. CARES not allowed. TK: Carseat not allowed in 777 C. LA: Carseat and CARES allowed in all cabins. SA: Carseat allowed in all cabins. Carseats and CARES not allowed on SA express. CX: Carseat not allowed in new C. NZ: Carseats and CARES not allowed in Premium Business. Of course this doesn't make a distinction between domestic/international on some cabins -- like the UA 787 or the US Envoy Suites. Does anybody have any additional information or recommendations as to what to avoid/look for specifically for this situation? Does nobody actually travel with toddlers in F? And if so, at what age do you just forgo the car seat altogether (if that's even allowed or a good idea?) Right now I'm contemplating just spending $300 on one of these Diono Radian RXT "foldable" car seats, since they're only 17" wide and fold in half so they can be stored away (somewhere) after take-off/landing... assuming a carseat is allowed in the cabin and there's actually anywhere to store it during cruise.