Change in Policy for Lounge Access

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  1. Rejuvenated
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    Recently there was a change that affects those flying F or J on OW flights with Ruby or non-OW status. Basically now if you fall under this category, you are only entitled to use the lounge of the airline you're traveling with.
    However, this change does not affect those with Emerald and Sapphire statues.

     
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    Is that a change? I thought it was always the case.
     
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    Kind of a crummy policy for those traveling up front.
     
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    Least competitive policy of the major global alliances, underscoring yet again why oneworld is not a serious option for non-captive global travelers.
     
  5. Rejuvenated
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    No. This was the previous OW policy regarding lounge access based on class of service:
     
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    This has always been the case. There are lounges exclusive to first class fliers - like AA Flagship Lounges in JFK and ORD. You may be EXP, but unless you're traveling F or Z, you will not qualify.
     
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    Actually EXPs on international itineraries DO have access to the Flagship Lounge, regardless of what class they are flying. Perhaps you were referring to domestic transcon flights?

    A better example of what you've brought up would actually be BA's Concorde Room. And as far as I can recall it's the only OW airline with a specific lounge that's reserved for F class passengers on its own metal with no status access.
     
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    No. There are few lounges that never gave access to non-Emerald/Sapphire F/J passengers not travelling on their airline. BA's concorde room being one example (same can be said for LH's FCT on the *A side just to name one of a few). But in general most OW airline lounges gave access to F/J pax traveling on another OW carrier without Emerald/Sapphire status prior to this policy change.
     
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    This is not exactly correct regarding the Concorde Room. I flew inbound to LHR in AA F last week, and then on a separate miles (Avios) ticket in Y LHR-CDG. I was allowed access to the Concorde Room at LHR by showing my AA F and BA Y tickets at the desk. I am AA PLT, so would have only been allowed access to Club lounge otherwise.
     
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    It would be incredibly annoying to be traveling IFC from a place where one's own carrier does not have a lounge, yet be prohibited from entering all lounges operated by oneworld partners.
     
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    Any reports of this actually being enforced?
     
  13. mattsteg
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    Must not have enough margin on IFC...
     
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    Well consider yourself lucky because you did not meet any of the requirements for access under the itineraries in which you traveled. You were neither 1) flying BA F nor 2) a BA Executive Club Gold Member.

    If I were you, I would treat the person who allowed you in for dinner. As a result of his/her mistake, you got something you clearly were not entitled to. ;)
     
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    Haha. You think I should take the BA agent who let me into the CR to dinner? Not sure one hour in the CR vs. the F lounge is worth the effort. :)

    I don't agree that this is as "clear" as you state it is. Everything I've read on the BA site just says you can access if you are flying F, not BA F in particular (not a great data point, I know). The Oneworld site says you are allowed access to lounges based on your long-haul class when connecting to a Euro flight. My long-haul class of service was F and the BA lounge agents have granted access in this scenario on two occasions, both times for two travelers.

    My personal experience is the data I'm using in this case, and I will update MP on what occurs next time I fly through LHR under this scenario.

    Just my two cents. Thank you all for the feedback!
     
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    If you do a lounge seach at the OW website for London, I think there is a reason why the Concorde Room isn't listed there! ;)
     
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    A BAEC gold card doesn't get you access either.
     
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    True, but BAEC Gold card holders who earn 5000 Tier points do. They're issued a Concorde Room Card.
     
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    John777 and I had this same discussion in the AA forum. While I agree with him that it's a bit vague, the collective wisdom on the Concorde Room on both MP and FT is clear: Concorde Room is not a OW lounge. :)
     
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    Ok, but I think they could also be called "Concorde Room Card Holders" :)
     
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    I don't disagree, but that quarrel should be with Kiwi Mile. ;)
     

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