Canceling Chase BA visa because of Avios

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  1. redtailshark

    redtailshark Silver Member

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    I did this yesterday and was passed to the "retention specialist." I was offered a waiver of the $95 annual fee to keep the account open. I declined and explained to the CSR that the opportunity cost of spending on the BA card, with Avios glory, did not compare to their own Chase Continental PPMC. I advised him to consider this cost going forwards with the CO premium card.

    He told me "a number of others" had voiced the same complaint and taken the same action since Avios was unveiled.

    Any of you?
     
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  2. rrgg
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    Yes, but I accepted the fee waiver. I thought I'd stick around to see if any unusual promotions come up in the new program.
     
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    It seems that whenever I want another Chase card, I have to hand over another one. When I got the sapphire last year, I gladly offered up a really old united card that I'd never used.

    I was hoping to get either the new United/Continental card (if there's a good promo) and/or perhaps the Ink card this year, and to offer up the BA card if asked to negotiate. I do like some of the short flights with Avios, but that's not necessarily a reason to keep the card after the 100,000 mile bonus is gone, and the annual fee in effect. However, the info re: the fee waiver may give me a new angle to strategize my next card...... I could try to cancel, then offer it up when applying for a new Chase card.

    I wish though that when one cancels and accepts new cards from the same institution, it wouldn't count as a cancellation for credit reporting purposes....

    (sorry... I'm not positive if this sounds coherent..... )
     
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  4. PanAm
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    My wife and I each have had the BA card since Feb 2010. There isn't much reason for us both to have it, though last year we had each received some sort of 3-month spending bonus just before the anniversary date, that made it worthwhile to keep both for another year.

    I plan to cancel mine, or rather sacrifice it in exchange for a new Chase card in my upcoming App-o-rama. We'll keep the wife's but may have her call to see about a waiver. I'm not real keen on the whole Avios thing, but we have some uses in mind for our remaining miles and it may be worth seeing if they have any promotions in the next year. Otherwise her card will be gone by next year.
     
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    OP, when is your annual fee due? I think mine is due on May 1 and am wondering when to call to cancel.

    If anything, I wouldn't mind getting a fee waiver in order to keep the card open, then use it as collateral for another Chase card down the road.
     
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    Can you each put $30k on your cards? That would give you two 2-for-1 coupons each year. That is worthwhile.
     
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  7. SFOPeter
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    they didn't offer me a fee waiver or any miles so i cancelled. per the other thread on this subject, the 2:1 is not worth it when you you can just buy miles on s* programs with the ba surcharges.
     
  8. redtailshark

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    Fee was just billed in the Jan statement. Per T&C that will be refunded because I closed the acc prior to the due date on the billing cycle. Also confirmed by the supe.

    Chase seem to want to ensure total Chase credit is capped. When I opened this card, for the 100k formerly-EC miles, I had to agree to a cut in the credit line on one of my existing Chase accounts.

    When I opened my AA Citicard, they didn't ask anything about my other three Citi accounts.
     
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  9. NYBanker
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    If the YQ on a return F ticket to LHR is $600 or so last I looked (plus the UK luxury taxes, etc, which all tickets have to pay), that seems like a very reasonable amount to pay in order to save 120,000 miles on the companion ticket. No?
     
  10. PanAm
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    We tossed that idea around, but wouldn't be able to rack up $30K on both (if the Mint were still around...but I digress). But we may try and do it on the remaining card - thought about it last year but ended up having too many other minimum spends. This year so far the min spends haven't been there (e.g., wife got the USAirways MC with no min required) so we might try this year for the 2-for-1.
     
  11. SFOPeter
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    If you are looking for 2 J or F tix, it doesn't add up when you can spend that $30K on a different card. Check out the math in the 6th post on this thread:
    http://milepoint.com/forums/threads/are-you-going-for-the-30k-chase-2-4-1-in-2012.22851/
     
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    You're correct on the math, but it's different for someone who already has BA miles in their account, since an extra MR/UR transfer would be unnecessary or of a lower amount.
     
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    I agree. There is still value in going for the 241 if you can abide that spend and you have a bucket (large??) of Avios already at hand. The math works in my favor by using a 241 on TATL flights and using Avios for flights in the Western Hemisphere.
     
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  14. SFOPeter
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    I agree on that, I have 200K Avios which I will burn on 2 TATL tix and it was a tough decision. If they had simply waived the annual fee I might have charged the $30K anyways after spending $5K on Chase Ink, but they didn't give me the option so adios avios. :)
     
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    Perhaps to rephrase the opening question:
    Which BA fliers who use the chase card to collect extra miles are considering cancelling because of the switch to Avios?

    I think we have established in many threads on many forums that many non-BA fliers used the Chase deal to collect miles to redeem on non-BA flights and they enjoyed the incredible value for miles that this used to offer - This is now over, and they should rightly seek better promotional value elsewhere. Perhaps collecting miles for airlines they actually patronise?

    Dissatisfaction amongst the former group is a concern. I don't think anyone will lose sleep about the latter.
     
  16. Buster

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    My husband and I are both BA fliers who are considering cancelling. We're trying to go to MUC in December (or barring that, London), and are finding that there is ZERO availability from November to January. If this is an "Avios enhancement" then I don't expect that we will be Chase BA cardholders for very long.
     
  17. Globaliser
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    You may well be looking too early. Award inventory isn't always loaded when bookings open, just as the cheapest fares are often not loaded at that time. None of this is done on a first come first served basis.
     
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    We typically book this early and have never had a problem before. Heck, it was easier to get award seats to LHR for the Olympics this summer than it has been to get these ones! I'm still holding out hope that this is a glitch of some kind, but if we're stuck with last minute bookings, that's just not going to work. We need at least a few months advance notice in order to suitably arrange holiday time at work.
     
  19. Globaliser
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    But there have been reports that BA's approach to releasing award seats has changed, so past experience won't necessarily be repeated.
     
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    Yup, understood. That's why we're considering cancelling our Chase cards - these points may have limited utility for us going forward.
     
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    I am looking for award flights early December and have been following availability for a while. Appears to be a 5-6 week lag in awards become available.

    I am hopefully by end of January there should be available around the dates we are looking for if my recent tracking is anything to go by.
     
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    I don't think it's a glitch but at the same time I don't think you'll have to wait months and months before availability shows. As Globaliser says, award seats aren't always released as early as bookings open. BA appear earlier than most at opening bookings.
     
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    I had less trouble redeeming on BA last year than on DL. Yes, the surcharges and other negatives were notable, but still BA EC did outperform SM. I haven't attempted to use the remaining Avios stash yet.
     
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    Just thought I'd preserve this for posterity.
     
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    A good start. But...

    Haven't you printed out and framed the quote where I stated that one of my BA flights was the best flight I'd ever had? :)
     

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