Can I go to Hong Kong and Stop in Tokyo with AA miles?

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  1. merice107

    merice107 Silver Member

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    I would like to go to Tokyo and Hong Kong on my way to Thailand. Instead of booking a flight from Chicago to Tokyo (50,000 AA miles business class), and then a separate flight from Tokyo to Hong Kong (30,000 AA miles business class) could I book a ticket from Chicago to Hong Kong (55,000 AA miles business class) with a Stopover in Tokyo? I read MMS and his post on North American Gateway Cities but I am still a little confused (not the authors fault but the reader :) :
    http://millionmilesecrets.com/2012/02/16/american-airlines-award-travel-4/

    The reason I would not want to fly straight to Hong Kong from Chicago is because I would 1) like to visit Tokyo and 2) would like to try JAL in addition to Cathay (which I plan to fly home)

    This trip is not for a little while but in my ocd nature, I'm trying to come up with different options and ways to maximize my points.
     
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    AA does not allow stopovers in intl cities.

    So no you won't be able to have a stopover in Tokyo.

    Another option is to use OW Explorer award, which is based on miles flown.
    http://www.aa.com/i18n/disclaimers/oneworld_awards.jsp

    According to GC Map an ORD - NRT - HKG - ORD flight is ~15909 miles. Looking at the chart its 130k AA miles for the trip.
    You could play around and add a few more stops to make it closer to the max of 20k miles for a zone 6 ...

    If you Can get cheap flights to SFO maybe an SFO - NRT - HKG - SFO would work. That's under 14k miles thus it will be zone 5. 115k AA miles.
     
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    Thanks!
     
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    Wait ... how are you getting from HKG to BKK? You'll have to think about that too
     
  5. merice107

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    That is a whole other ball game :)

    I have some BA Avios that I figured I would use for the Tokyo-Bangkok and then Bangkok-Hong Kong flights. I've read that Avios are best used on intra-Asian flights because of the low to non-existent fuel surcharges/taxes.

    I have just been thinking about how I could save some miles by somehow adding some of those intra-Asian flights on as part of the Chicago-Tokyo and Hong Kong-Chicago tickets (or the other way around; I don't care if I go to Tokyo or Hong Kong first).
     
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    in that case why not do AA for ORD - HKG & NRT - ORD while Avios for the HKG - BKK - NRT route
     
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    there's no SFO-NRT flight only HND
     
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    Have you checked the YQ? I wouldn't call YQ on JL non-existent even on NRT-BKK.
     
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    Last I checked, the cheap one ways from Hong Kong to Bangkok were in fact from Macau to Bangkok. Someone in the Far East might confirm that.
     
  10. merice107

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    I like that idea:)

    No I have not. This isn't any time soon so I am still in the blueprint stage. I guess I should rephrase to YQs are less on intra-Asia flights than say Chicago-London?
     
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  11. DestinationDavid
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    Depends on your carrier for ORD-LHR, could be very high, could be rather low.

    Also, I agree with JALPak. Avios on intra-Asia flights can come with some hefty fees, they're not all inexpensive. Keep in mind that you have to count on finding award space on direct flights. If you need to connect in another city (say TYO-HKG-BKK) instead of going direct, the number of Avios and the amount of the fee will increase accordingly.
     
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    This seems like a perfect use for the Explorer Chart. As long as your have 2 partners, it should work, and you will have 2 partners if you fly JL and CX. Don't forget RJ also flies HKG-BKK.
     
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  13. DestinationDavid
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    By the time he'll be booking this award MH, UL and possibly even QR may be options for moving around that area on a explorer award as well.
     
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    The 1 QR flight I've ever taken was HAN-BKK :p
     
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  15. DestinationDavid
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    I'm starting to see that we both have an affinity for 5th freedom flights based on your blog post and my obsession with researching them.... lol
     
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