Campaign to end tipping and pay waiting staff a living wage gathers pace

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  1. uggboy
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    Campaign to end tipping and pay waiting staff a living wage gathers pace

    IMHO, Living wages are the way to go, it's a win-win. :)
     
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    Most of these same servers stay 2 or 3 hours after closing cleaning up the Resturant for the same $2,13 cents and hour.,

    While the Owners, and Manager brag about how much money they make.

    The servers do get to cheat on their taxes and pocket most of the cash.
     
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    I would be in favor of ending tipping and paying staff a MARKET wage.
     
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    MARKET wage? I would be in favor of a LIVING wage. That's what the campaign is all about. :)
     
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    Others will complain that you are limiting the wait staffs ability to earn more.. Similar to commissioned sales people who sell more to earn more.
    Wait staff no matter how well they do there job will only get $25.00 per hour no matter how many tables the boss makes them wait on and how nice and or efficient they are at the job. Now their upside is limited. People are motivated by the ability to earn more by what ever means that is selling more or being the best waiter.
     
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    @ 2.13 USD legally an hour, I believe even the best "salesman" would feel underpaid somewhat. Tips aren't guaranteed, plus many waiters/waitresses want to live without the stress of "guessing" how much they earn in any given hour. They want a "living wage"...:)
     
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    and move on.
     
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    Actually the irs has limited the cheating. They have tables for how much is taken in I tips and automatically figure that in. (personal experience:oops:)
     
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    There are plenty of jobs where the salary or hourly wage is fixed and not dependent on sales or commissions. Servers could be paid more based on better performance (resulting in happier and return customers and perhaps better productivity). Don't think it would be hard for restaurant managers to figure out who the good servers are.
     
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    The new POTUS Exectuive Orders, gives 300,000 workers sick pay, amounting to and extra paid week a year, and yet we have people working for $2.13 an hour.

    Many professional propose work for a straight salary plus bonus, it is called performance and production...

    I just called it job security..

    Servers salary depend on customer count, and the price paid, for the most part, they need to be paid a decent hourly wage, and not subject to the customers emotion. Just like any other productive worker..
     
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    Not quite sure what this has to do with the topic at hand, but if I were your server today, you'd probably be very much in favor of me having a (paid) sick day instead of carrying your food and beverage to your table while sneezing and coughing up a storm. Fortunately this message will be sanitized and disinfected by Milepoint's anti virus checker, so no worries, it won't get you sick.
     
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    The move was political, same as the move to keep the servers at a lower wage.

    PAC money pays for VOTES at a cost to others.

    Your servers make $2.13 so other can profit,

    Their ain't no free lunches....and you do not need to be sick to get a paid sick day..

    Union Payback, on the back of taxpayers, and yet the server still gets $2,13

    Pay the waiting staff a living wage, like everyone else...


    I think that is the topic.
     

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