BA starts MAN-GOT

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    And they have already doubled the frequencies:

    http://airlineroute.net/2012/06/26/ba-mangot-aug12update2/

    BA8231 AAR0700 – 0735GOT0800 – 0900MAN FRJ x67
    BA8233 AAR1600 – 1635GOT1700 – 1800MAN FRJ x6
    BA8232 MAN0930 – 1230GOT1255 – 1330AAR FRJ x67
    BA8234 MAN1830 – 2130GOT2155 – 2230AAR FRJ x6
     
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    strange. they drop LGA to GOT for years and finally returned service to GOT and now from MAN to GOT?
     
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    Depends on who you mean by "they". This is not a British Airways service, even though it will carry British Airways branding.
     
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    Indeed, this thread should realy be titled "BA franchise partner (Sun-Air) starts ...".

    Sun-Air operate their own services for their own book. They market them and operate them under BA codes and livery, but the service choice is theirs. BA has essentially nothing to do with this.
     
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    They are operating under a BA flight number. No codeshare.
    Also, this forum is British Airways Executive Club. Sun-Air is a fully integrated partner. You earn Avios with Sun-Air, and actually you earn double on this specific route in June/July/August.
     
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    So what? That's just a commercial arrangement between BA and its independent franchisee.

    None of this makes the new service any more a British Airways service than the erstwhile turboprop service between Lanseria and Gaborone, or between Lanseria and Maputo. These flights are still Sun-Air flights, operated on Sun-Air's AOC and on Sun-Air's flight number. The fact that the only publicly marketed flight number is the BA code is a function of the franchise arrangement.

    The "strangeness" expressed by milestoburn is totally unsurprising when you look at the route through commercial eyes, not through the eyes of a mileage collector.
     
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    All right, I'll adjust my statement; GOT-MAN will be operated by this aircraft:

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    To chop your post up into sections:

    Yes, they (SunAir) operate them under BA flight number and livery.

    This has no relevance.

    Indeed, and a thread about this DOES belong here. Nobody is saying otherwise. Thank you for posting about it.

    'fully integrated'?

    Sun-Air is a franchise partner of British Airways, it is not integrated in any way.
    The decision about which routes to operate (subject to any restrictions in the franchise agreement), is theirs, not BAs. They decide were to fly. They take the operational risk, and do it for their own book (they make the profit).

    It is certainly not unique, but is different to other relationships that also exist out there, where other airlines get smaller airlines or subsidiaraies to operate routes for them (either suppling the wet leased aircraft, or to operate the services on the smaller airlines AOC), but at the financial risk of the larger one.

    milestoburn said they found the decision strange, we were just pointing out that when the nature of the relationship is viewed, it is easy to understand.

    They are not BA (the company) flights (although will be treated as such for most frequent flyer purposes), their franchise partner has chosen to do it, and although they do it in BA livery and numbers, they do it for themselves.

    But the thread completley belongs here. Nobody thinks you shouldn't have posted it. Thanks for posting it.
     
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    Indeed - and if it wasn't clear from what I'd said before, I'd like to indicate my agreement here.
     

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