Around the World on Star Alliance

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  1. Bill Hunt

    Bill Hunt Silver Member

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    Hope that this is the right sub-forum to post into.

    I have been looking at doing a ATW (Around the World) trip on Star Alliance, and have done several dummy itineraries, looking for options. I have read a bunch of FAQ's, and several posts on the subject, but one thing that I have not seen, and one that concerns us, is, what about our miles? We are both 1K on UA, and Chairman members on US (but it will soon be out of Star Alliance), and I would want my accumulated miles to be applied to UA, both in miles and PQM's, plus ideally, the purchase in PQD's.

    I know that PQD's are new, so many are probably learning the fine print, but I feel that many will know about applying a Star Alliance ATW purchase to our UA MP accounts.

    Thanks for any thoughts on this.

    Hunt
     
  2. Wandering Aramean
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    Wandering Aramean Gold Member

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    Buy from UA if you want full PQDs.

    Otherwise only UA-operated segments will count and I have not yet seen any reports of similar trips to understand how the fare splits for a RTW->PQDs.
     
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    RDMs and PQMs should post as normal (you're flying *A carriers on a *A RTW, I presume). The exact details may vary based on fare class and carrier, but I think RTWs use a reasonable enough inventory bucket that you should get normal (1x) RDMs and PQMs. Don't expect your 100% RDM bonus except on the UA-metal segments.

    Seth's answer re: PQDs sounds accurate.
     
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    Also on CM, LH, LX, AC, OS and some NH routes (TPAC and non-China, India or Oz).
     
  5. Bill Hunt

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    That is good information to know.

    Appreciated.

    Hunt
     
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    Star alliance has a special economy round the world fare (26k mileage limit) that books in fairly low booking classes (generally earning reduced or no mileage) as well as the regular economy/business/first options for 29k, 34k and 39k mileage limits that book in higher booking classes.
     
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  7. Bill Hunt

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    Thanks for that info.

    I had looked at the Star Alliance Web site and at ATW. I was plugging in first FC, but hit a snag with the UA 787 DEN - NRT, as it is a two-class cabin. Things went better, when I changed to BC for all legs. It was about this point in my dummy trip, that I became aware that there was no mention of my UA MP number, and I could find no reference to MP's at all. That was one of the prompts to post my question here.

    The quoted cost for ATW in BC was quite attractive (about what I paid for Global FC SFO to SYD last year), BUT part of the draw for such a trip would be the MP's, which I would want on UA, rather than partner airlines (have few points/miles with any of those).

    Busy gathering all the data from here.

    Thanks everyone.

    Hunt
     
  8. Wandering Aramean
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    Where are you planning on starting the trip and which carrier will carry you on the first intercontinental segment? If it is USA and United then UA should be able to issue the ticket for you so you'll get full PQDs for the entire trip.

    As for RDMs or PQMs, those will be pretty consistent regardless of who issues the ticket. See below for what classes it will book in and figure your PQM/RDM earning based on those letters. The data I have here is old so it might be a bit out of date but these are the fare classes by carrier for the Y, C and F RTW fares. If UA doesn't have A on the DEN-NRT (they don't) then it should book in D. If D isn't available then it'll book in Y.

    Code:
      RTW BOOKING CLASSES BY CARRIER
      CXR   FIRST        BUSINESS       ECONOMY
      A3    C NOTE 1     D NOTE 9       M
      AC    C NOTE 1     Z NOTE 2       M
      AV    C NOTE 1     D NOTE 3       M
      CA    A NOTE 4     D NOTE 5       M
      F WITHIN CN  C WITHIN CN    M
      NOTE 6       NOTE 7
      CM    C NOTE 1     D NOTE 3       M
      ET    C NOTE 1     D NOTE 3       M
      JJ    A NOTE 4     D NOTE 3       M
      JP    C NOTE 1     D NOTE 3       M
      KF    J NOTE 10    Z NOTE 11      M NOTE 18
      LH    A NOTE 8     D NOTE 3       M
      LO    D NOTE 3     Z NOTE 2       M
      LX    A NOTE 8     D NOTE 3       M
      NH    A NOTE 4     D NOTE 9       M
      F WITHIN JP  Y WITHIN JP    M WITHIN JP
      NZ    C NOTE 12    D NOTE 13      M NOTE 19
      MS    A NOTE 8     D NOTE 3       M
      OS    C NOTE 1     D NOTE 9       M
      OU    C            D NOTE 3       M
      OZ    A NOTE 8     D NOTE 3 X     M
      Y WITHIN KR  Y WITHIN KR    Y WITHIN KR
      SA    A NOTE 8     D NOTE 3       M
      SK    J NOTE 10    Z NOTE 11      M NOTE 18
      SN    C            D NOTE 3       M
      SQ    A NOTE 14    D NOTE 3       M
      TA/LR C NOTE 1     D NOTE 3       M
      TG    A NOTE 8     D NOTE 3       M
      TK    C NOTE 1     D NOTE 3       M
      TP    C NOTE 1     D NOTE 9       M
      UA    A NOTE 4     D NOTE 5       M
      US    A NOTE 16    Z NOTE 17      M
      ---
      NOTE 1  IF C NOT AVAILABLE BOOK Y
      NOTE 2  IF Z NOT AVAILABLE BOOK B
      NOTE 3  IF D NOT AVAILABLE BOOK Y
      -OZ MANDATORY BUSINESS CLASS SURCHARGE
      ON ROUTE ICN-SFO/LAX SEE PARAGRAPH
      SURCHARGES
      NOTE 4  IF A NOT AVAILABLE BOOK C
      IF A NOT OFFERED BOOK C AND
      IF C NOT AVAILIBLE BOOK Y
      NOTE 5  IF D NOT AVAILABLE BOOK B
      IF D NOT OFFERED BOOK A AND
      IF A NOT AVAILIBLE BOOK B
      PROVIDED THAT ONLY FIRST AND ECONOMY
      CABIN OFFERED ON THE FLIGHT
      NOTE 6  IF F NOT AVAILABLE BOOK C
      IF C NOT AVAILABLE BOOK Y
      NOTE 7  IF C NOT AVAILABLE BOOK F
      IF F NOT AVAILABLE BOOK B
      NOTE 8  IF A NOT AVAILABLE BOOK C
      NOTE 9  IF D NOT AVAILABLE BOOK B
      NOTE 10 IF J NOT AVAILABLE BOOK D
      IF D NOT AVAILABLE BOOK Y
      NOTE 11 IF Z NOT AVAILABLE BOOK Y
      NOTE 12 IF C NOT AVAILABLE BOOK U
      IF U NOT AVAILABLE BOOK Y
      NOTE 13 IF D NOT AVAILABLE BOOK E
      IF E NOT AVAILABLE BOOK B
      NOTE 14 IF A NOT AVAILABLE BOOK J
      NOTE 15 IF F NOT AVAILABLE BOOK C
      NOTE 16 IF A NOT AVAILABLE BOOK D
      IF D NOT AVAILABLE BOOK Y
      NOTE 17 IF Z NOT AVAILABLE BOOK B
      IF Z NOT OFFERED BOOK A AND
      IF A NOT AVAILABLE BOOK B
      PROVIDED THAT ONLY FIRST AND ECONOMY
      CABIN OFFERED ON THE FLIGHT
      NOTE 18 FOR ECONOMY EXTRA BOOK S
      SEE S CLASS SURCHARGE IN PARAGRAPH
      SURCHARGES
      NOTE 19 FOR UPGRADE TO PACIFIC PREMIUM ECONOMY
      BOOK O. SEE NZ O CLASS SURCHARGE IN
      PARAGRAPH SURCHARGES
      NOTE 20 IF A NOT AVAILABLE BOOK D
      NOTE 21 IF J NOT AVAILABLE BOOK Y
    
     
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