ANA Grounds 787 Fleet; UA Impact?

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  1. Weatherboy

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    After an incident with smoke-on board, passengers evacuated down chutes in Japan today on a 787...and ANA has decided to ground the fleet.

    After all the bad press in Japan, I'm not surprised they decided to over-cautiously ground the fleet for now.

    But what impact will what's happening there have on travelers in the U.S. and with United's 787 fleet. I know there's been some press how more passengers are requesting the 787 rather than avoiding it, but does an actual grounding overseas impact attitudes in the U.S.... and does anyone thing UA will do anything different around their 787 service? (i.e.: if a UA 787 runs into any mechanical issue, would they also ground the fleet in an "overabundance of caution"?)

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-...emergency-landing-amid-battery-indicator.html
     
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  2. cguizlo

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    I flew the 787 from ORD - IAH on Saturday and I love this airplane and had a great flight...but I have to wonder if this will mean the fleet will be grounded in the US until the FAA concludes their investigation and in light of these issues.
     
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  3. Captain Oveur
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    Given the news lately, I'm not sure I'd want to use the word 'impact' anywhere near '787.'
     
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  4. HaveMilesWillTravel
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    JL followed NH's example and grounded its fleet.
     
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  5. Weatherboy

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    Not good news for UA...
     
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  6. guberif

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    Supposed to fly TATL on LO 787 soon. I think I'm screwed.
     
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    Has LO already started flying their 787 TATL?

    From what I've heard two weeks ago they're still sorting out technical issues before doing TATL flights.
     
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    Darn. Was supposed to be on a UA 787 towards the end of the month. Not looking good.
     
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    Starting tomorrow ORD-WAW
     
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    I am scheduled on the LOT 787 this coming Monday (Jan 20). Will keep y'all posted!
     
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    My guess is that, barring someone actually figuring out what is going on, the FAA/DoT will not step in and ground the type. In Japan it is the carriers, not the regulators, making that decision. As for whether UA will make a similar decision, keep in mind that the company had 3 787s in LAX to inaugurate the LAX-NRT service. They clearly want these planes in the air and flying as much as possible. At the same time, however, they've been the lucky recipient of one potential battery issue and the recent similar reports don't make things look so great. They've managed to ground the planes before as needed and it wouldn't be hard to do it again. But they still have to figure out the "why" part of the problems better to see if it is actually necessary.
     
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  12. HaveMilesWillTravel
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    Three to make sure they'd have one good one to go on that trip?! That would make me feel good as a passenger.

    I suppose they could just install a few of these in the cockpit and in the passenger cabin

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    to combat the smell and then hope for the best.
     
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    Not sure if I agree - I think UA will likely need to ground the 787 for some period of time. It is a great plane and once the bugs get worked out - it will be fine. But with all the nightly news repports on problems, I see UA grounding the fleet as well. Boeing will announce a fix - and after a few weeks the fleet will be back in the air.
     
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  14. Weatherboy

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    At best, I think UA would need to send their 787 to a market other than a Japanese one.
     
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    Send it on IAH-LOS, I hear humidity and heat go well together with lithium ion batteries.
     
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    I don't think that would happen voluntarily. The 787 has been UA's marketing message for the past 12 months, and they really don't have much else to hang their hat on right now.
     
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    Are they going to swap out the pre-departure video?
     
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    It's already is, starting on the 30th I believe. I have to go to LOS sometime in next 2-3 months and was looking at the timetables on that flight for he next few months.
     
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    Given how UA bragged on the same video about their website and wireless devices at the height of them not working properly, I doubt it.
     
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  20. Weatherboy

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    It wouldn't surprise me if one of the reporters from the 787 launch day reaches out to us for our $0.02 on things. Personally, if the FAA and UA still feel there's no reason to pull these out of service here, I feel completely comfortable flying them still.
     
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  21. HaveMilesWillTravel
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    "All 787 Dreamliners Grounded! More at 11."

    (just overheard the preview of the local "news" here in the Bay Area).

    Unless I am missing something, they are exaggerating a bit there.
     
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    ANA started their service to SJC just last week on the 787.
     
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  23. HaveMilesWillTravel
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    I know. Canceled today.
     
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  24. Hartmann
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    I was being a tad facetious. IAH-LOS was originally set to be one of the first international routes to use the 787 for UA. That was delayed after the emergency landing over MSY.
     
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    It seems to not have been "over cautious". The battery was discolored and had been leaking electrolytes. Remember too that the Cessna CJ-4 executive jet had an emergency AD in 2011 forcing the replacement of the li-on battery with a ni-cad or lead acid. The ANA situation seems to have been very close to an inflight fire. This has now reached an entirely new dimension.
     
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