(ANA) Flights on Awards/StaAlliance not found on UA website are they bookbable by UA

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  1. iolaire
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    I see this flight on KVS tool, but I don't see it on United. Would this be bookable via phone with united? Also the odd thing is even the UA first is showing as available but not on the UA site.

    Also I should note that I can not find the IAD - NRT segments by themselves.

    [KVS Tool 7.7.8/Diamond - Awards/StarAlliance/JP-ANA]
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    IAD  Washington Dulles Intl DC US [KIAD]
    KIX  Osaka Kansai Intl JP [RJBB]
    SUN  25 Oct 2015 | 2 Seats
    
    Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Award Availability
    ---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------------
    NH         1       IAD   12:20     NRT   15:25 +1  77W      FS+  CS@  YS+
     -> NH     97      HND   20:35 +1  KIX   21:50 +1  772
    NH         1       IAD   12:20     NRT   15:25 +1  77W      FS+  CS@  YS+
     -> NH     99      HND   21:00 +1  KIX   22:15 +1  772
    NH         1       IAD   12:20     NRT   15:25 +1  77W      FS+  CS@  YS+
     -> NH/7G  3829    HND   21:30 +1  KIX   22:45 +1  320
    NH         1       IAD   12:20     NRT   15:25 +1  77W      FS+  CS@  YS+
     -> NH     93      HND   07:30 +2  KIX   08:45 +2  767
    .....
    UA         803     IAD   13:15     NRT   16:35 +1  777      FS+  YS+
     -> NH/7G  3829    HND   21:30 +1  KIX   22:45 +1  320
    .....
    
     
  2. iolaire
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    This posts seems to indicate that it ANA might not be right:
    http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.com/2015/04/13/ana-has-a-new-award-search-tool-and-its-not-great/
    That’s theoretically helpful, but I’m a little concerned about the accuracy. I haven’t had a chance to really dig in and discern specific trends, but there are many discrepancies between what is actually available in Starnet versus what is displaying on the ANA site. At this point it seems rather random. That’s a real blow, as the ANA tool has consistently been the most accurate of any Star Alliance search tool.
     
  3. Wandering Aramean
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    Call and ask, but consider that ANA can have more inventory for its own members than partners, especially when it is high or intermediate season for their charts.

    Looking at the ANA page directly will also tell you what the inventory really is rather than the stripped down, scraped version you've got there.

    And while Ben may be annoyed with the different inventory for "home" points it is not uncommon.
     
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  4. iolaire
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    Good recommendation, thanks to award wallet i'll click over and look.
     
  5. KVS Tool

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    Unfortunately, it is an issue with the [ANA's new] [Awards/StarAlliance] Engine.

    The only Award Seats that are actually available at the moment are in Economy, as the [Awards/AC-StarAlliance] Method confirms:

    [KVS Tool 7.7.8/Diamond - Awards/AC-StarAlliance/CA-AE-RT]
    Code:
    IAD  Washington Dulles Intl DC US [KIAD]
    NRT  Tokyo Narita Intl JP [RJAA]
    SUN  25 Oct 2015 | 2 Seats
    
    Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Award Availability
    ---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------------
    NH         1       IAD   12:20     NRT   15:25 +1  77W  0   YS+
    UA         803     IAD   13:15     NRT   16:35 +1  777  0   YS+
    UA         554     IAD   22:00     DEN   23:45     320  0   YS+
     -> UA     139     DEN   13:05 +1  NRT   16:30 +2  788  0   YS+
    UA         309     IAD   22:00     IAH   00:12 +1  319  0   YS+
     -> UA     7       IAH   10:15 +1  NRT   14:20 +2  777  0   YS+
    UA         374     IAD   08:30     ORD   09:36     320  0   YS+
     -> UA     881     ORD   13:10     NRT   16:30 +1  777  0   YS+
    UA         485     IAD   10:00     ORD   11:03     320  0   YS+
     -> UA     881     ORD   13:10     NRT   16:30 +1  777  0   YS+
    UA         807     IAD   13:25     PEK   15:40 +1  777  0   YS+
     -> CA     421     PEK   16:45 +1  NRT   21:00 +1  320  0   YS+
    UA/YV      3800    IAD   08:15     CLE   09:27     CR7  0   FS+
     -> UA/EV  4736    CLE   10:40     ORD   11:13     ERJ  0   YS+
     -> UA     881     ORD   13:10     NRT   16:30 +1  777  0   YS+
    UA/YV      3980    IAD   08:20     DTW   09:56     CR7  0   FS+  YS+
     -> UA/G7  3707    DTW   10:48     ORD   11:02     CR7  0   YS+
     -> UA     881     ORD   13:10     NRT   16:30 +1  777  0   YS+
    UA         374     IAD   08:30     ORD   09:36     320  0   YS+
     -> UA     835     ORD   11:25     PVG   14:50 +1  744  0   YS+
     -> NH     960     PVG   17:25 +1  NRT   21:00 +1  763  0   CS+  YS+
    UA         374     IAD   08:30     ORD   09:36     320  0   YS+
     -> UA     835     ORD   11:25     PVG   14:50 +1  744  0   YS+
     -> CA     157     PVG   17:20 +1  NRT   21:00 +1  738  0   YS+
    UA/G7      3681    IAD   22:00     ROC   23:18     CR7  0   FS+
     -> UA     769     ROC   07:00 +1  ORD   07:55 +1  320  0   FS+
     -> NH     11      ORD   10:45 +1  NRT   14:00 +2  77W  0   YS+
    
     
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  6. KVS Tool

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    No, it will show the exact same as what the [Awards/StarAlliance] Method shows.

    Therefore, there is actually no need (or point) in doing that, unless one feels particularly masochistic.
     
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  7. Wandering Aramean
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    The seasonality factor may still come into play for partner awards.
     

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