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Discussion in 'General Discussion | Travel' started by satman40, May 13, 2014.
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Targeted offer, just a heads up..if your are a Hilton Guy,
Wonder if this would make you Diamond...
Nope .. you need spend $40k on one of their affiliated cards or earn 120k base points by staying at their hotels.. either of these must be achieved in a calendar year.
So, enough for one night at the Conrad Hong Kong (which I can get for about $500 USD without putting money into illiquid points). Yawn.
I tend to agree,
The big boys do the math, they are not there to give the place away.
Fair enough ... one can always rationalize ones opinion/decision and even provide examples to support such.
But 100k HH points would also get 2 1/2 nights at the Hilton Barcelona which is quoting the lowest rate of 430+ euros for the night of June 2 or alternately 2 1/2 Nights at the Hilton Diagonal-al Mar (a nicer hotel IMHO) also in Barcelona for June 4-7 where the lowest room rates are around 300 euro/night.
Was just looking for those dates for a relative ...so it they wanted to uses points 100k would be a good deal for the $550 . no?? ( with the additional plus you get to avoid the often high room taxes when paying with points)
As always depends. I only value HH points around .4 cents at this point, but that's because I get about that much value out of them at the places I stay. If you have a specific redemption in mind and know how much you'll save then of course it makes sense.
I also find American chain prices horribly inflated overseas. You can easily find good hotels at half the price, as long as you aren't obsessed with the shiny card saying you're special. Are those rates comparable to non-chain hotels in Barcelona of comparable quality?
It's also going to be offered on Daily Getaways https://dailygetaways.ustravel.org/OfferDetails.aspx?pid=20e73083-2471-4f27-835c-f74cd4193ab2 with 10% off for purchasing with an Amex. There are some ways to make this a reasonable deal at 0.495 cpm but it won't work for everyone.
Unfortunately Hilton points have devalued so much that 100K points does not seem like much.
Hmm Did it go up? I have 2 nights booked right now @ 160k.
My last and best HH redemption was at 3.1cpp.
Conrad HK is flexible, sometimes it can be 90K...
I thought the discussion was whether 100k HH points were worth $550.00? So it seems unable to refute my point that there are circumstances where it may very well be a reasonable value you wander off into mentioning (with a clear perception of looking down your nose at anyone with status or is it just envy ) into "American chains" and " shiny cards" ????
Fair enough... but you seem to be talking from both sides of your mouth Remind me again who was the one who brought up the Conrad HK? ...so are "American chains" OK in Hong Kong but not in Spain?
There are legitimate edge cases where I could see value (case in point, Conrad Macao, where the cost per night is closer to $300-400 USD, points per night is 40K, one of a few places where Hilton didn't nuke value in their last devaluation- as a matter of fact, this is where I am cleaning out the last of my HH points). That being said, the general case of American chains being overpriced overseas AND Hilton points being overpriced at ~0.5 cpp, and difficult to extract a lot of aspirational value out of, are not mutually exclusive.
That being said, if you want to go to town buying them, and you've got a great way to spend the points, by all means, do. I won't be. I do have this particular shiny card as a result of being a MP supporter, but I don't see a lot of value in hotel chain loyalty a lot of the time; I prefer being loyal to my wallet on Kayak, Priceline, Hotels.com and so on, with some exceptions. There are markets and times where defaulting to Hilton and using a promo is about the same as Pricelining/Kayaking/Hotels.com (insert random hotel here), pus you get a bunch of points on top (I've gotten some steals during low season in PHX)... but envy because people are sticking with a chain or buying up points I think aren't always great value, and where I'd rather just keep cash and use that? Not really. I find lots of value by stepping outside US-based chains, but to each their own, I guess. Whatever works for you.