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Discussion in 'United Airlines | MileagePlus' started by HeathrowGuy, Dec 9, 2013.
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It's all a matter of perspective really.
I know I'm the exception, but I'm.happy with United....very happy
I am also unabashed in admitting my satisfaction with UA. Here's to the Power of Two!
United does plenty of things right and plenty others wrong. I'm not particularly dissatisfied with them but the claim that they are (or, in recent times, have been) the world's leading airline is laughable.
The question is not is UA leading, the question is where they are leading
They're definitely leading the race to the bottom with their latest product enhancements.
I can't think of many standards where UA would be considered a leader. Route network, I guess. Having trouble thinking of more.
Until a couple months ago the loyalty program was pretty high up there vis a vis rewards. It still is in many ways, though not quite as good as it was.
At the risk of sounding like a broken record, anyone that has to deal with mostly UAX on the US East Coast is not going to think of UA leading anything except a race straight to the bottom. Moreover, once US leaves *A, at least in CLT, UA miles will become much tougher to use.
Agree, and that's why I didn't list it. I still have a bunch of currency that will most likely turn into UA miles at some point and be used for premium cabin travel out of IAD. So, the recent changes don't have a huge effect on my travel patterns. But, I do think the changes no longer make them a leader in this area.
There is no "absolute" leader in anything among the major US or world carriers,only "relative" leaders, because there are different implementations of different things by each carrier that appeal to different people depending on their travel patterns and needs. For my travel pattern and needs, UA** +*A remains head and shoulders above the rest. None of the recent changes have affected me sufficiently to alter my perceptions...
** corrected from US to UA
Indeed, it is always a YMMV analysis. For me being CLT based, US leaving *A, and only 1 mainline flight on UA out of CLT, the changes have been totally miserable. No matter how good mainline UA may be, if I cannot get out to it, it makes little difference. For others, that's not a concern.
The worlds leading airline is a toss up between Emirates and Qatar.
Lets get real
Nothing that hasn't been speculated to date really. Reduced choices in some markets, higher prices, changes to AAdvantage, etc. We'll just have to wait and see though overall I don't expect a lot of positives for the FF crowd. What I'm most curious about is how the promises Doug has made to employee's pan out.
Not sure how QR is even in the running. I've flown one of their flagship routes in J IAH-DOH, and while the service levels are first class, an angled-flat seat (no matter how nice for an angled product) just can't compete with true-flat. QR is only just starting to introduce its new reverse-herringbone product as it takes delivery of 788s, and it only offers F on a handful of routes (LHR, which I will try in a few weeks, CDG and HKG IIRC). UA offers flat beds in J and 3 cabin F on tons of routes. Sure, the soft product is hit or miss, but if it's an overnight flight I'm more concerned with seat comfort than anything else.
There are airlines out there that offer a competitive J/F product on many routes, and that also provide great service (CX and KE come to mind). QR is on its way there, but isn't quite there yet for the majority of its long-haul route network.
Try flying 77W or 787 (fully flat). Those angled seats are going gone
Once the new airport opens and the they get the rest of their planes, QR will be quite fomidable
Sidenote : What does leading mean?
Name me one metric that UA leads.....
Dissatisfied, over-entitled elites?
Leading in what? Last domestic legacy carrier to get wifi? Most cramped J cabins on international flights? Worst domestic catering in F? Only carrier with no PJs in international F?