American Airlines and Qantas Expand Codeshare Cooperation and Deepen Commercial Relationship

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    http://www.travelindustrywire.com/a...ation_and_Deepen_Commercial_Relationship.html

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    Qantas will codeshare on American Airlines flights to 28 new destinations from Dallas/Fort Worth International Airport (DFW), American's largest hub. American Airlines will begin codesharing on Qantas services between Sydney and Dallas/Fort Worth as well as domestic services from Brisbane to Adelaide, Canberra, Cairns, Melbourne and Perth.

    The expansion comes ahead of the launch of direct Qantas services from Sydney to DFW, on May 16, and will give Qantas customers unparalleled access to a wide range of major cities across the United States, Canada and Mexico. New destinations include Chicago, Houston, Las Vegas, Miami, Nashville and New York (Newark) – as well as Calgary, Toronto and Vancouver.*

    Members of both airlines' loyalty programs – the American Airlines AAdvantage® program and Qantas Frequent Flyer program – are able to accrue and redeem miles/points across the combined networks of both carriers.

    As announced earlier this year, Qantas and American Airlines will shortly seek regulatory approval for closer collaboration from the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission (ACCC) and other relevant authorities.

    Group Executive Qantas Airlines Commercial, Rob Gurney, said, "The new codeshares will help maximize the benefits of the new DFW service for passengers and underpin the enhancement of the Qantas-American Airlines relationship. This is an important step for Qantas as we prepare to begin flying to Dallas/Fort Worth and seek to deepen our relationship with American Airlines.

    "With the addition of 28 new codeshare cities, Qantas' network out of DFW will total 54 destinations when we commence services in May, providing unprecedented choice and convenience for Australians visiting the USA. Similarly, the Australian tourism industry will have the opportunity to tap into a huge market of potential US visitors.

    "Expanding our codeshare arrangement with American Airlines allows us to capitalize fully on DFW's position as a major hub airport for business and leisure travel. As well as most major US cities, Qantas customers will be able to travel through DFW to Canada and Mexico, including such destinations as Toronto, Vancouver, Cancun and Mexico City.

    "We have worked closely with American Airlines over many years, and with the commencement of services to Dallas/Fort Worth we look forward to taking our partnership to a new level," said Gurney.
    Virasb Vahidi, American's Chief Commercial Officer, said, "Our expanded codeshare relationship with Qantas makes it easier and more convenient for our customers to travel on the global networks of both airlines. We are pleased to give our respective customers unprecedented access to destinations across North America and Australia. We are focused on delivering more choices, easier connections and a better overall travel experience, and this expanded relationship with our valued partner, Qantas, is a great example of those efforts."

    Vahidi added, "Our strengthened relationship will further enhance our position in the growing trans-Pacific market, as well as in the respective home markets of each carrier, and make oneworld a stronger global alliance. We look forward to more opportunities to deepen our relationship with Qantas in the future."
     
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    Glad to see this.
     
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  3. If only there was some way to get a QF codeshare on an AA flight without going to OZ/NZ...
     
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    If there was only some way to burn our evip's and mileage upgrades on the QF codeshare flights - a great marketing spin for AA could be " a new day in true closer collaboration keeping benefits of our best customers in mind"- just sayin ;)
     
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  5. Be careful what you wish for. QF has 4 classes like BA (though it only uses 3 classes Y, Y+, J to BNE). I'm not a fan of the so-called "upgrade" from full-fare Y to Y+. :eek: Or requiring Y+ purchase to be eligible to upgrade to J. :eek: :eek:
     
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    Will this closer collaboration ultimately involve paying YQ on QF partner awards booked with AA miles?
     
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    Given QF has no equivalent to pre-confirmed eVIP upgrades, you can only hope.
     
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    J to f on 380 out of lax would be a good use of eVIPs.

    I earn about 75k AA eqp each year on Qantas metal in paid J. I can't use any AA exp benefits (beyond F lounge access in SYD or MEL) on QF. DL and AF, UA and LH now have some reciprocity for SWUs. Not perfect, but some at least.

    And the SYD f lounge just reminds me how nice it could be if AA had a truly premium lounge product. (I understand AA and QF have very different math due to qf's geographic location.)
     
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    which (assuming this is about 1.5 JFK-SYD returns (by my calcs 66k EQP a retun) a year would get you Qantas Gold (Sapphire). Three returns would get Qantas Platinum (Emerald) and a shot at upgrading (subject to the whims of Qantas Yield Management)...
     
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    It's about 10,000 miles each way and I get 1.25x in j (old company paid f on this route) so about 25,000 eqp per r/t on AA.

    I looked at the math of doing this on QF ff instead of AA ff ... And while emerald status would be easier on QF, the upgrades would be sporadic at best. I end up using the AA SWUs for upgrades from j to f on domestic transcons or end up gifting one or two to friends traveling abroad (who would otherwise be in y).

    I used to be BA gold/emerald. I quite enjoyed FL access on domestic itineraries with that card. Sometimes the aa lounge dragons would ask how an american could have a BA card...which i always got a kick out of.

    I guess the big question is how probable are upgrades from j to f as a qf Plat. Anyone have a view?
     
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    Although I would prefer the AA model I would hope for a middle ground on QF and would happily pay for the Y+ ticket if I could burn my evip to get into QF J. Some say I can make those Qantas J PJs look fairly good :D
     
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    I suspect far easier on the 747 versus A380 and being Qantas easier when the back is full (eg school holidays), pushing upgrades through the cabins.
    I am 0/1 LAX-SYD and 0/3 SYD-LHR-SYD. That said I have a friend who is living in LHR who is 3/4 for upgrades, got an op-up on the one he missed and also is about 3/6 on opups.
    Would also add that QF Plat lets you assign the better seats on the 3-class services in 4-class planes
     
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    If only QF J wasn't so uncomfortable. It's even worse than AA J.
     
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    I have not found QF J transpacific to uncomfortable at all - fully flat seat, upstairs cabin quiet with PJs and the bells and whistles I hope to have one day on AA metal across the ocean. Now we are not talking about econ plus?
     
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    Flat, but a steep angle, with fixed high armrests. Extremely hard surface. Neither my partner not I can ever sleep in those seats (and I've tried adding ambien and sonata). AA J is no picnic either, but QF actually seems worse.
     
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    I agree. The AA J product I find cosier than the 1/2 inch rock-solid angled foam bed of QF J.
     
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