Airport ABCs: An Explanation of Airport Identifier Codes

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    Thanks for posting. I wondered why Toronto was YYZ.
     
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    Yes, interesting article.
     
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    Article was written in December of 1994. I'm not sure that the Wandering Aramean had begun flying yet at that young age. That long ago I think he was still living in Egypt with a few people, not yet powerful and numerous.
     
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    Armenia is in Egypt? :D
     
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    The Wandering Aramean is over 4,000 years old? :eek:
     
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    Aramean, not Armenian. Quite a difference.
     
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    What's a few thousand years to a god? :D
     
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    Ya ya. That is what they all say :p
     
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    Really? This lady in Yerevan told me the same story! :D

    Armenia.JPG
     
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    Great informative article, thanks!
     
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    You mean you're *not* related to the Kardashians after all? :D
     
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    The article is interesting, and taught me something new:
    I had somehow thought the "GRR" designation came from "GRand Rapids" (and the geographic similarity to the airport identifier code certainly isn't just a coincidence). Yet the name wasn't changed to "Gerald R. Ford" until 1999. So what was the designation of Kent County Airport prior to that? Maybe KNT or KTA?

    I suppose I could rummage through my old United plane timetables and find out, but they're in a box somewhere (if I didn't throw them out). Would anyone happen to know?
     
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    One other trivia point:
    ZWS, a location designation served by Lufthansa, is the main train station in Stuttgart, Germany. You can't land a plane anywhere near ZWS, at least and take off again. Lufthansa and the German railway, Deutsche Bahn, have an arrangement that some connections to and from Frankfurt International Airport (FRA) are actually serviced by rail, certain train cars being designated with an LH flight number. These were used as "feeder" flights to avoid having to use real airplanes on short hops, primarily between FRA and Cologne or Stuttgart, the Cologne rail terminal being designated as QKL.

    Whether this did actually reduce the need for airplanes or not, it did give a great opportunity for Miles and More mileage runs in the early to mid 2000s, since the tickets on LH by rail were less costly than by air, and yet got full mileage credit. If you bought an LH ticket in the first class rail car, as I recall that counted as a Business Class trip for Miles and More purposes, so double the miles. Some folks would spend a Saturday riding back and forth from Stuttgart (ZWS) to FRA to Colone (QKL) and return, racking up quite a total of elite qualifying miles without getting more than a few feet off the ground.

    Ah, those were the days!
     
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    Sioux City Airport SUX.
    A t-shirt opportunity that was done badly!
     
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    They tried to get the code changed a few years back. Didn't work. So they embraced the "SUX" nature of it and did, in fact, make tshirts and such.
     
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    I assume it may vary by browser and plugin but did you know in Milepoint you can highlight (like your going to copy) the 3 digit codes in posts like ORD or LAX and a little popup glossary will show up in the top right corner that shows the airport definition.
     
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    Slight correction to your list:

    Toronto's Pearson International Airport (YYZ) is not located in Downsview, which has it's own very small airport several miles to the east of Pearson. YYZ is actually in the Region of Peel, and located inside the boundary of Mississauga, Ontario, while Downsview is within the Toronto city limits.
     

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