Airlines can say: You can't wear that

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  1. sobore
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    http://www.chron.com/news/article/Airlines-can-say-You-can-t-wear-that-3814872.php

    Airlines give many reasons for refusing to let you board, but none stir as much debate as this: How you're dressed.

    A woman flying from Las Vegas on Southwest this spring says she was confronted by an airline employee for showing too much cleavage. In another recent case, an American Airlines pilot lectured a passenger because her T-shirt bore a four-letter expletive. She was allowed to keep flying after draping a shawl over the shirt.
    Both women told their stories to sympathetic bloggers, and the debate over what you can wear in the air went viral.

    It's not always clear what's appropriate. Airlines don't publish dress codes. There are no rules that spell out the highest hemline or the lowest neckline allowed. That can leave passengers guessing how far to push fashion boundaries. Every once in a while the airline says: Not that far.

    "It's like any service business. If you run a family restaurant and somebody is swearing, you kindly ask them to leave," says Kenneth Quinn, an aviation lawyer and former chief counsel at the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration.

    The American Airlines passenger, who declined to be interviewed by The Associated Press, works for an abortion provider. Supporters suggested that she was singled out because her T-shirt had a pro-choice slogan.

    A spokesman for American says the passenger was asked to cover up "because of the F-word on the T-shirt." He says that the airline isn't taking sides in the abortion debate.

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    Perhaps airlines should have signs like some restaurants about refusing to serve customers who do not dress appropriately. Of course a sign describing what is appropriate would not be a bad idea either. While someone having the F word on their shirt would not offend me, it would offend some people, and someone who wears that is obviously seeking attention. Perhaps being asked to cover it up or leave the plane is the attention they were seeking.
     
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    Offending "some people" is not a good standard. Almost anything will offend "some people," including religious headwear, and wearing the 'wrong color.'
     
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    Actually someone making a shirt with the F-Word offends. Do you really want to intentionally offend someone by wearing a T-shirt that says that. You will offend someone. I see that type of thing and it just makes me realize how stupid some people can be.

    And to the specific case. Working for an abortion provider and stirring up trouble by wearing a shirt with F***?

    It seems like there are probably better ways to get your point across rather than challenging societal standards.
     
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    Obviously some people do what they do to push the boundaries, and/or just to get attention. I'm sure there are plenty of people out there that wouldn't dare wear any sort of crazy offending t-shirt to a funeral or their mother's house, but when it's time to go out in public they "want to make a statement" and decide to go for shock value.

    To me it makes little difference... It's highly unlikely that I'll get offended, and if nothing else you'll just get the proverbial head-shake if I see someone wearing something stupid. But still, I consider flying -- just like dining out or staying at a hotel -- to be a service, provided for a fee by a company. That company can very well decide what (if any) restrictions they have and whether they want to refuse service, and it's your choice whether you want to support them with your wallet.

    You have restaurants out there that require a jacket or dress slacks or they will refuse service outright, and it's your choice if you want to either dress up or go elsewhere to eat. I think of the airlines just the same way... you can choose to "make a statement" or show poor judgement in favor of "free speech" -- and you might very well end up not flying that day.
     
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    Now if they would just stop people from flying in their pajamas. Is it really asking to much for people to understand they are not at home but are in public and not everybody wants to see them dressed like slobs.
     
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    It takes a lot for me to be offended by someone's clothing... Actually I can't think of even one occasion that something like that bothered me.

    Now if pax have personal hygiene issues.... Well that is another story..

    Hovever I can see people offended with expletives on t-shirts, especially if kids are flying with them as well.

    Wearing a shirt with a expletive... Is well... Just not common sense, then again I bet the person wearing the shirt had no sense of common sense ;)
     
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    not to be argumentative, but I would not equate wearing the wrong color to wearing what is considered extremely foul vocabulary.
     
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    I could not agree more with you.
     
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    Maybe you should, because people have been shot and killed over the wrong clothing in the wrong 'hood.
     
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    I would tend to ignore written offensive statements even though these can reduce the overall experience of the flight.
    Of course that wouldn't stop me from thinking that the wearer is a bit off base and deserves to have their 'speech' backfire.
     
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    I'm offended by the incessant use of 'in an abundance of caution' and the continued citing of an incident from 11 years ago every time I'm on a plane. Can we please ban these?
     
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    You have clearly never flown in CX F. Of course, they are designer pajamas, and you don't board in them :)
     
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    How someone dresses is a no-brainer for me. Next case, step down please. I have no need to police other people's appearances. I do agree with the personal hygiene comment.
     
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