Air Transport Rating Agency rates JAL as the safest airlines in Asia

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    Air Transport Rating Agency released its airlines safety rating today and rates JAL as the safest in Asia and is the only one that makes it to the top 10. The rating is based on 15 criteria including accident figures, average age of the aircraft used and the homogeneity of the fleet.

    Congrats on JAL on job well done in keeping flight safety as their top priority :D

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/af...ocId=CNG.f17dd620575edb02954a7f8f0971f63b.621

    But part of the 15 criteria used is a bit odd...oh well a win is a win :p
     
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    Surprising given all the safety problems they had just a few years ago. Maybe ditching the 747s helped a lot.
     
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    not really. this so called 2011 rating is based on 2009 data :eek:

    http://www.atra.aero/News/HOLISTIC_SAFETY_RATING_2011/1/

    And look at their criteria...

    http://t2impact.blogspot.com/2011/08/atra-ratings-of-safest-airlines-are.html

    % of aircraft on order and total number of employees!? I don't take this rating too seriously. But just happy that JAL got the top rating in Asia :p
     
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    "Number of aircrafts no longer in production" ! WTF? LOL!:D
     
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    I guess it's related to fleet age in some way but their 15 criteria are a bit ridiculous :p

    And look at the FIRST criteria...financial health!? 2009!? And JAL still makes it to the top!? They must be doing REALLY well in the other 14 :p
     
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    Just not financial health...net financial health! LOL:p
     
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    was that even a positive number in 2009? LOL
     
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    Couldn't be, didn't they declare bankruptcy in 1/2010 which would be 4th quarter fiscal 2009!
     
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    Yes, bankruptcy filing on Jan 19 2010. So JAL did an EXCELLENT jobs in the other 14 areas :p
     
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    ROTFL
     
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    SQ didnt win this....?
     
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    Only Asian carrier made it to top 10 is JAL :p
     
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    The list of the worst ten airlines for safety is even worse. Some respected carriers get failing grades based on accidents in the 1980s while others that scare me didn't make the list.
     
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    where is the list? :)
     
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    I don't know now, but I think I found it from a link on MP within the last few days. It sounds like the same methodology and fourteen or so factors being considered in the rankings and with a lot of estimates for each carrier's total number of flights during the time period being considered.
     
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    more importantly, which carriers are on it :p CX? LOL
     
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    I don't remember them all, but Pakistan, Iran, Cubana, Philippines, Guardia, I think SQ, and the Taiwanese carrier (Air China? I get the names confused).
     
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    China Airlines :p

    So the reputable ones you referred to was SQ and....PAL? :p
     
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    SQ of course and TG was on the list, which shocked me. I wish I could remember all ten.
     
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    Maybe it has to do with their A380 fleet :p
     
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    Other carriers with A380s like LH and QF are not on the list. I don't remember whether AF is good or bad according to them.
     
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    They did better in other areas :p But I am surprised that QF didn't make the cut for the worst 10.
     
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    Isn't it still true that QF mainline has never lost a hull? I.e., in their history, never an accident where the aircraft couldn't be repaired? If so, that's an impressive record.
     
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    but their safety records isn't that great in the past couple of years. They even hired an unqualified engineer. But speaking on unqualified staff, isn't that a chinese career hired an unlicensed pilot? Do they take that into account too? :p
     
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    I don't know, but I thought there were problems with this in India, as well as pilots showing up drunk and being tested at the airport before flying. I haven't heard of Pakistan having this problem.
     

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