Air Canada seeks help of federal conciliators to deal with pilots talks

Discussion in 'Air Canada | Aeroplan' started by ACMM, Oct 27, 2011.  |  Print Topic

  1. ACMM
    Original Member

    ACMM Gold Member

    Messages:
    25,786
    Likes Received:
    113,111
    Status Points:
    20,020
    ... the fun never seems to end! :)

    Link

    10-27-2011 2-02-48 PM.jpg
     
  2. ACMM
    Original Member

    ACMM Gold Member

    Messages:
    25,786
    Likes Received:
    113,111
    Status Points:
    20,020
    ... and the next iteration ... surprise ... surprise ...

    Air Canada pilots accuse airline of intimidation by seeking conciliated talks ...


    Link

    10-27-2011 7-15-41 PM.jpg
     
    YULtide likes this.
  3. ACMM
    Original Member

    ACMM Gold Member

    Messages:
    25,786
    Likes Received:
    113,111
    Status Points:
    20,020
    ... the next step - conciliator has been appointed ...

    Link

    11-14-2011 5-46-03 PM.jpg
     
  4. ACMM
    Original Member

    ACMM Gold Member

    Messages:
    25,786
    Likes Received:
    113,111
    Status Points:
    20,020
    So this is a conciliator - not an arbitrator ... just a stepping stone to arbitration do you think?
     
  5. tomh009
    Original Member

    tomh009 Gold Member

    Messages:
    2,258
    Likes Received:
    1,819
    Status Points:
    1,220
    It's kind of like non-binding arbitration ... the conciliator will try to help them find a deal that works for both. It doesn't really seem like a high-pressure tactic, at least looking from the outside.

    My guess is AC wants to get the negotiations going -- it has been six months since the pilots rejected the first negotiated agreement -- and decided that getting a conciliator was the best way to do that. It does mean that the pilots have to decide what they are going to ask for, however.
     
    LETTERBOY, milchap and ACMM like this.
  6. milchap
    Original Member

    milchap Gold Member

    Messages:
    27,636
    Likes Received:
    148,037
    Status Points:
    20,020
    Who else is getting tired of all these antics?
     
    YULtide, LETTERBOY and ACMM like this.
  7. ACMM
    Original Member

    ACMM Gold Member

    Messages:
    25,786
    Likes Received:
    113,111
    Status Points:
    20,020
    I agree - break the unions - have all non-union staff and get on with a better airline ;)
     
    LETTERBOY likes this.
  8. milchap
    Original Member

    milchap Gold Member

    Messages:
    27,636
    Likes Received:
    148,037
    Status Points:
    20,020
    Nothing as drastic as what you propose......;) but another trip to the house of CCAA could bring resolution to the antics.
     
    LETTERBOY and ACMM like this.
  9. ACMM
    Original Member

    ACMM Gold Member

    Messages:
    25,786
    Likes Received:
    113,111
    Status Points:
    20,020
    Now that is drastic! But why not - clean house ... start fresh ... love the idea :D
     
    LETTERBOY and milchap like this.
  10. milchap
    Original Member

    milchap Gold Member

    Messages:
    27,636
    Likes Received:
    148,037
    Status Points:
    20,020
    This operation I have codenamed.....Operation Barbershop. Haircuts for all. ;)
     
    ACMM likes this.
  11. tomh009
    Original Member

    tomh009 Gold Member

    Messages:
    2,258
    Likes Received:
    1,819
    Status Points:
    1,220
    The big problem I see is that the union leadership has been out of touch with the members -- both the pilots and the FAs (twice) rejected negotiated contracts. A fundamental tenet of collective bargaining is that the union needs to represent the interests of its members, otherwise the process simply doesn't work.

    The pilots voted in new union management, but the FAs still have the same group at the top as far as I know.
     
    YULtide and LETTERBOY like this.
  12. tomh009
    Original Member

    tomh009 Gold Member

    Messages:
    2,258
    Likes Received:
    1,819
    Status Points:
    1,220
    But will everyone be singing ... the same tune? :eek:
     
    YULtide likes this.

Share This Page