AC machinists issue strike notice for Monday 12 March

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  1. milchap
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    Oh dear, may have to fly LH in the back cabin next Wednesday if AC cancels its flights. These were the same guys picketing the 75th Anniversary event at YYZ.
     
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    March Break Madness takes an interesting twist.
     
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    I can understand strikes when the company management and the union negotiating committee are unable to find common ground. But if the company has agreed to terms with the union negotiating committee in good faith ...
     
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  5. That strike will never happen. Lisa Raitt is on record stating she will not allow the Canadian public to be inconvenienced.
     
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    We have a flight out on Friday morning (AC7 YYZ-YVR) and then the 18th (AC8 YVR-YYZ). Keeping our fingers crossed for the latter.
     
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    Lisa rocks! She has ensured no stoppages! You go girl! :D
     
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    It's amazing how broken the AC labour relations process is. Way too many separate unions, 18-month contract negotiations, agreements by negotiating committees, repeated rejections by union members, strike threats, LCC plans, lockout threats, arbitration process falling apart after a few weeks, back-to-work legislation threats ... what a soap opera!
     
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    FFers have Air Canada and the others have "Young and the Restless".
     
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  11. The very fact pilots want a major say in the LCC tells you they are out of control and need their butts kicked and hard. Calin is just the guy to do it. He has effectively broken the backs of the unions by enlisting the government to ensure he gets his way in reducing the disruptive power of these thugs. AC's employees simply don't get it;the industry is now a low cost minimum wage business for most blue collar employees.
     
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    Air Canada and the airline's largest union have agreed to go back to the bargaining table.

    The airline and the International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers have agreed to a 10-day negotiation period after Labour Minister Lisa Raitt appointed an arbitrator to settle the dispute.

    IAMAW represents 8,600 Air Canada mechanics, baggage handlers and cargo agents. Those workers were set to go on strike last month before the federal government stepped in and passed back-to-work legislation in advance of any job action, in effect making any widespread work stoppage illegal.

    That legislation mandated that the dispute would be ended by binding arbitration.

    In a release Friday, the two sides say they will have no further public comments during the course of the negotiations.

    The airline has another labour dispute on its hands, as Air Canada's pilots are also without a contract. The pilots have already agreed to talks with an arbitrator.

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2012/04/27/air-canada-union.html
     
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    MONTREAL, May 22, 2012 /CNW Telbec/ - Air Canada said today that the negotiation phase preceding the arbitration with the International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers (IAMAW) has been completed. The IAMAW represents 8,600 mechanics, baggage handlers and cargo agents employed by Air Canada, and its collective agreement expired on March 31, 2011.

    While talks were constructive and progress was made in a number of areas, the parties will now proceed to prepare their final offers for the arbitrator, Mr. Michel Picher, to consider.

    The parties had agreed to a 10-day negotiation period in conjunction with the 90-day final offer arbitration process legislated by the federal government in the Protecting Air ServiceAct.

    The negotiation phase preceding the arbitration with ACPA, the union representing the airline's pilots, has also been completed and the parties will proceed to prepare their final offers for the arbitrator, Mr. Douglas Stanley, to consider.

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/air-canada-iamaw-proceed-final-155100793.html
     
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  15. The abitrator has made a good call.
     
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    Watch for what appears to be a random session of golf clapping in a baggage claim area near you!
     
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  17. Maybe so, but rest assured this current federal government won't allow it for very long.
     
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  18. Maybe so, but rest assured this current federal government won't allow it for very long.
     
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    Michel Picher is extremely well respected as an arbitrator and taught law at Ottawa University for many years. Its interesting that although named by Raitt, he was suggested by both parties.

    The decision is an interesting read as well, and only 14 pages. Ultimately, although Picher retained the management offer we can see that the mechanics of a last best offer were successful in forcing both parties to present a "fair" solution. The management offer included several points that the union was looking for as well. Ultimately Picher comes to the conclusion that the arbitrated settlement is more advantageous for the union than what was collectively negotiated but refused by the members. Unfortunately I didn't find the annexes, so the details are missing.

    http://iamaw2323.ca/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Air-Canada-IAMAW-Final-Offer-Award.pdf
     
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    Now to see what happens with the pilots ...
     
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    Hey there! Welcome back!
     
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    Not back - just thought I would check to see wazzup ... heading to the airport - have to hit 250K this year :D
     
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    well safe travels whereever that may be!
     
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