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Discussion in 'American Airlines | AAdvantage' started by jbcarioca, Apr 16, 2012.
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This email landed in my inbox a couple of minutes ago
This has been open for quite awhile. Probably just a reminder email like they've been sending lately about EXP elite benefits.
It was fairly funny to me because they've had it in each of the airports where there are operating Flagship Lounges, thus ORD probably has one again now to go with it's new/old Flagship Lounge and MIA and JFK should soon have them too. I always have liked the Flagship lounges because they ar more like standard European/Asian lounges. I do not see the point of Flagship Checkin for members of GE/TSAPre which most such passengers probably already are.
Still it was curious to me because i never had such a notice before IIRC.
I believe LHR and LAX are the only airports with Flagship Check-in. Nothing at ORD yet.
So ORD and JFK, maybe DFW will add to the soon to come category I guess. MIA is more iffy because they do not have very much 777 activity yet, so have little international FC.
That is why AA should change all GIG inbound/outbound planes to 777s!!!
...and return SCL to 777s too.
I'm willing to bet SCL might not support the F class traffic to justify a 777. GIG and GRU seem like better 777 destinations.
Not sure what the deal is with Flagship checkin at LAX, as when I show up, there is rarely anybody in the F line, I go right up to the counter and am checked in in 60 seconds. Hopefully, it is to get all the self-important ignorant twits who want to monopolize an agent for a half-hour into their own line with the others like them.
We would fill them up, would we not?
SCL is a surprising market. Remember the GNP per capita and the propensity of Chilenos to travel a lot. SCL did support 777's but AA pulled them and downguaged to 767 as Asian/European routes grew, but the fleet did not. GRU is no question, EZE has 777 seasonally and GIG has JFK seasonally 777 also. They need more 777's! It seems they agree. It will be sad if TAM loses FC on the A330's following the merger, as LAN discontinued theirs. That would leave us with only AA 777 for FC to the US, not counting legacy UA.
As a OWMD participant I was able to use Flagship Checkin and lounge at LAX leaving Los Angeles after the MegaDO.
Photos and details here: http://megado.com/blogs/?p=903
Was that because OWMD participants are automatically considered to be ConciergeKey members? Of course you would be anyway, as our guru!
Heh. I'm not a Concierge Key member, just a garden variety EXP.
OWMD participants were all given Flagship checkin/lounge access on departure if flying AA out of LAX after the event.
I love how you seem to think I see Chilenos as poor or stationary. Lol
I still don't see AA adding 3 class service to SCL. I think there are better current and potential destinations that would support the 777 better. There are many prosperous countries with travel itchy populations, but not all will support 777 service. F class is disappearing on more than just AA. The market, in general, doesn't support many airlines offering this service anywhere, let alone SCL.
I should add, maybe SCL is a better candidate for AA's future 787s than the new 777s? Just to give some fancy plane hope in SCL.
MIA has I believe six or seven daily 777 departures which I believe is more than any other AA hub other than JFK
EZE actually has 777 service year-round from MIA and JFK. JFK used to be a 763, but switched to 777 service a few years back. DFW service is switching from 777 to 763 in the near future.
Please do not think I thought you were ill-informed. To the contrary. It seems to be that the LAN aircraft order book and LF for SCL flights to NA and EU destinations would suggest more capacity could be well-used. of course AA has little extra longhaul capacity except in inefficient 767, where recent fuel cost escalation have caused cutbacks and reallocations.
It is that that makes me think 773 capacity could end out serving SCL if AA continues to order more of them.
My comment about your perception was just friendly kidding, you know you're my favorite Brazilian.
We obviously don't know the seat count on the new 777 but the current configuration has 194 Y, 37 J, and 16 F seats. The 763 currently used to SCL has 195 Y, and 30 J. The additional seats are almost all premium cabin, and mostly F at that. If more capacity is called for I'd be willing to bet they need it more in the back of the bus than the pointy end and AA would probably do better adding a frequency as opposed to an aircraft change.
If fuel becomes a profitability issue, I still think the new 787 might work out better than a 777.
I am quite positive that almost everyone agrees with that. the order books for B787 and A350 are clear evidence of that, especially when observing how long and thin route specialists such as LAN have crowded the order books.
Both of you clearly demonstrate the inherent weaknesses in allowing home-field bias to rule over facts. Obvious that you are both correct.