AA status match to UA - and question.. thanks!

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  1. chiedog

    chiedog New Member

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    Hi all,

    So i'm a United 1K and i'm fed up after flying 2 roundtrips from SINGAPORE to Newark (i take it they're pretty long flights) this month alone, and NONE of my systemwide upgrades got processed because somehow UA prioritizes 1K's differently in the queue vs pre-merger w/continental.

    Anyway, question:

    In my letter, probably because its already July, AA writes to me

    "As an added bonus, if you earn 45,000 elite-qualifying miles or points
    through December 31, 2012, we will extend your AAdvantage Executive
    Platinum status through February 28, 2014.

    Please note that bonus elite-qualifying miles earned through other
    promotions do not count towards reaching the 45,000 elite-qualifying
    mile threshold for these offers. For details on earning qualifying
    miles or points, visit www.AA.com/elitestatus. "

    So does that mean that if I buy say a business class ticket and get 1.5x EQM, it won't count? i actually have to fly 45,000 miles? Because the 2nd paragraph is misleading "EQM earned through other promotions don't count towards the 45K EQM threshold".. does the 1.5x bonus when i pay more for business count?

    thanks for your help! cheers
     
  2. Scottrick
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    If you fly business or first and get a 1.5 bonus, that will count. But you cannot use other promotions like DEQM or TEQM between certain cities.
     
  3. DestinationDavid
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    The 1.5x bonus you earn on business fares do count for your qualification. The "other promotions" referenced would be promos like the double EQM offered recently on ORD-SFO routes, etc.

    And just as a point of clarification, business fares on AA earn 1.5x EQP, not EQM.

    You are aware you cannot get all the way to SIN using AA SWUs, correct? You'd have to head to another AA destination and connect to a partner where your SWU currently doesn't work.

    Regardless, welcome to MP and to AA. :)
     
  4. JonNYC
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    That's not necessarily correct. Flying in paid business or first yields 0 bonus or extra EQMs. They earn bonus EQPs and bonus redeemable miles.

    But the answer to the question "So does that mean that if I buy say a business class ticket and get 1.5x EQM, it won't count?" is "they won't-- there are no extra EQMs for same."

    Only if all/most of the flights during the challenge period are in extra-EQP fare buckets will it reduce the amount of flying actually needed-- qualifying by EQPs instead of EQMs in the process.
     
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    Correct. My reply was sloppy. Any bonuses you would normally earn based on the type of fare will count. Not limited time promotions like a DEQM. But since you don't earn a multiple of EQM, only EQP, that doesn't help you as JonNYC helpfully pointed out.
     
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    But it will help if the OP makes the 45,000 threshold using EQPs rather than EQMs. The challenge allows him/her to count either, provided that it is done consistently; what isn't allowed is adding together EQMs from some flights and EQPs from others. A business class RT to Asia at 150% is about 30,000 EQPs, so it could well make sense for the OP to qualify for the challenge based on EQPs. (However, don't these challenges usually count only the carrier's own metal, so that not being able to get to SIN without using a partner could be a major obstacle if this condition is part of the challenge that was offered? It's not in the terms quoted in the OP but this should be checked carefully.)
     
  7. Scottrick
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    That's right. For some reason I remember from my own letter that it only said EQM, but I'm probably mistaken.
     
  8. JonNYC
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    Exactly. Those extra EQPs *could* very easily help-- but not if mixed in with too many non-extra-EQP-earning fares.
     
  9. DestinationDavid
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    Recently folks have reported that language on AA's status challenge letters say flights on BA/IB/QF/JL do count, however, if I were OP I would confirm with AA in writing what is and what is not acceptable for this challenge instead of conjecture and deduction. Always better to be safe than sorry.
     
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    Thanks everyone.. Very helpful comments indeed. Cathay and Japan airlines connect me from Singapore. If I fly business on those airlines and get 1.5x eqm is it worth it? Or just fly economy on that leg and connect to an American flight in narita and fly business to north America where my points will count... Thanks!
     
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    Have you confirmed with AA which partner airlines you can use on this challenge? As mentioned above, as of late AA has been allowing JL flights to count toward challenges, but not CX. Did they say you can use any EQM/EQP earning flights?

    Also, as mentioned above a few times, you get 1.5x EQP, not EQM, from AA's business fares. The two are very different and it's important that you know which you are going to use to finish your challenge before you start making decisions on what types of fares to buy.

    JL and CX J are nice products. Most would say better than AA's J product. Generally CX would get the leg up on JL as well.
     
  12. chiedog

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    ok.. got it.. so i guess i'd have to buy 2 roundtrips to New York City from Singapore, say on JL (total mileage is 9800 miles each way) and then fly a couple times within Asia on an airline that "counts for the challenge" and make sure that all the EQM counts... thats going to be tough... I'm going to NZ next week but couldn't get a good oneworld airline to get there (SQ has direct flight) or with the timings that i like (ie: red eye flights) which SQ once again has... guess the tradeoff between the number of airlines on Star vs. Oneworld..
     
  13. chiedog

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    here's the AA reply on this btw....

    Dear Mr. Chie,

    The AAdvantage® Customer Service representative with whom you've been
    corresponding is not immediately available. Rather than keep you
    waiting, I'm pleased to assist you.

    When you purchase First Class, Business Class or Full Fare Economy Class
    (American Airlines® booking codes Y and B), you earn 1.50 points per
    mile flown; for Discount Economy you earn 1.00 point per mile; and for
    Deep Discount Economy you earn .50 points per mile. (Discount Economy
    includes AA fares booked in H, K, M, L, W and V. Deep Discount Economy
    includes all AA fares booked in G, N, Q and S; and eligible AA fares
    booked in O, excluding travel between North America and Central/South
    America.) Points are also earned on other elite-qualifying carriers. To
    learn more, please go to our website at www.aa.com/aadvantage. Select
    'Program Details/AAdvantage Elite Status/Recognition by Other Airlines.'

    In short, yes, if you purchase a First Class ticket, you will earn 1.50
    points per mile. This will calculate towards your 45,000 point
    qualification. AAdvantage flight mileage credit is based on the nonstop
    distances between the airports where your flight departs and arrives. On
    connecting flights, you'll receive mileage credit for each segment of
    your trip; on nonstop and through flights, you'll receive the nonstop
    origin-destination mileage. (A through flight makes a stop but continues
    to the destination with the same flight number, although sometimes with
    a different airplane.) You receive AAdvantage mileage credit for the
    booking class of your fare rather than the cabin in which you are
    seated. The bonus miles you earn from purchasing a First Class ticket do
    not count towards the 45,000 miles offer. For example, if you fly a
    First Class ticket from DFW to ORD, you earn 802 miles towards your
    mileage qualification, 1.50 bonus miles that do not count towards your
    qualification and 1.50 points per mile that calculate towards your point
    qualification.

    Mr. Chie, we appreciate your membership in the AAdvantage program and
    are working hard to ensure you enjoy all of its benefits. It is always
    our pleasure to serve you.

    Kindest regards,

    Vicky Pare
    AAdvantage Customer Service
    American Airlines
     
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