AA dropping DEL and BUR?

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  1. HeathrowGuy
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    I read on an aviation-related bulletin board that AA intends to end all flying to BUR next month and will can DEL in March. Anyone know this to be the case?
     
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    I'd be surprised to see AA drop DEL.

    BUR, I'd think ONT would get the axe first because of the high airport costs.

    Here is the thread referenced in the OP.

    http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/general_aviation/read.main/5353085/1/

    ETA:
    BUR has been zeroed out now. One less dot on the AA route map.
    DEL it seems is going away in March based on reports on TOBB
     
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  3. Wandering Aramean
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    Is DEL covered by the BA/IB ATI? If so, that's not incredibly surprising. Marginal 777 routes are not particularly popular in Dallas these days.
     
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    ORD-DEL is not part of the AA/BA/IB ATI.
     
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    Still on sale as of now, so I'll wait till something more official comes out to mourn.

    It might be just one route but dropping DEL would be a serious sign to me that AA might be floundering where I need them most: Asia. It's already difficult to get around Asia with AA. JL and CX are nice, but I do enjoy AA metal and the perks it brings.

    ORD-DEL is one of my favorite routes.
     
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    So, could we end up with a new Europe, Asia or South America route with the aircraft pulled from DEL? Doesn't AA also have some 777 deliveries this year?
     
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    I appreciate your positive attitude. :)

    If true, quite sad...it was a great route to use eVIPs on, since it was such a long flight.
     
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    Correct. The 773s start arriving this fall.
     
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    Perhaps AA might "drop" DEL once IT comes on board OW (assuming all the money issues work out), if IT were to take it over...
     
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    If true, I think this will have more to due with restructuring and profitability then it does with partnerships.
     
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    Not that it seems we needed it, but confirmation now available: LINK.

    American Airlines announced Monday that it will cancel its Chicago-New Delhi service and stop its Dallas/Fort Worth-Burbank, Calif. route this spring.

    The Fort Worth-based carrier said it also will lay off 150 airport-related employees as part of "operational and business changes" that occurred before its parent company, AMR Corp., filed for Ch. 11 bankruptcy protection in November.

    American said the New Delhi flights will end on March 1. The carrier has flown that route since 2005 using a three-class Boeing 777-200 aircraft on the 14-plus hour flight.

    The DFW-Burbank service will stop on February 9 as American exits the Burbank market. The carrier added that American does not employ any ground workers in Burbank as it uses a third-party contractor.

    American said that it was laying off workers in its airport services workgroup because it lost a U.S. Postal Service domestic mail contract and was closing its ground service equipment refurbishment shop in St. Louis.

    There is no impact on DFW workers, said American spokesman Tim Smith.
     
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    I love burbank - it is so easy!!!! Great valet parking!
     
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    This is a shame, but I never really understood why they had a ORD-DEL route. A JFK-BOM would have been a better choice IMHO. There is a much larger NRI population in the NY metro area and I'd imagine there is generally just more traffic to BOM than DEL. Plus most NRI's have a belief (true or not) that DEL is a terrible airport to fly through due to fog and strikes.
     
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    NYC - India is already a very well served alley. Considering this ULH had a difficult time holding up against AI's single ORD-DEL, I'm not sure a more competitive market would have been a better option. Particularly with fuel costs as high as they are.
     
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    I think this is the ultimate issue. The revenue yields just aren't there for whatever reason to handle running the route at the higher costs. They basically have to top off the tanks to get the plane that far so the costs are pretty high. Even if the LF was at the reported 85% level if they aren't drawing the revenue to offset those costs then the route couldn't stick around.
     
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    Agreed. Too much $$$ going out, not enough coming back in.
     
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    Funny how that works. ;)
     
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    Most things are simple, it's the "what if we....'s" that get us in the weeds. :D
     
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    So where do we think that 777 will go?
     
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    What you really should be asking is "where do you all WANT this plane to go"? Because those are the types of responses you're gonna get. ;)
     
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    Since the New Delhi run was daily, and the flight was more than half-a-day (14 hours or so, actually) in length, we are talking more than one 777, correct?

    As for where they will go, most of the 777s are younger than most of the 763s, right? So it seems the airline could improve reliability and perhaps cost efficiencies by shifting them to a high-density, relatively long 763 route and perhaps sending some 763s to airplane purgatory in the desert a little earlier than planned. I realize somebody is going to bring up three classes vs two, but AA has managed bigger issues than that before. . . .

    Not sure what exact route we'd be talking about, though I do know that 777s are too darned big for that tiny runway in Burbank, hehheh.
     
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    As a Burbank regular flyer (and EXP) on AA, I am terribly sad to see this station closed for many reasons...The GA's are wonderful; the valet parking is the best; it is a small yet convenient airport; and it means I will now have make the decision of staying with AA (which means a 45 mile, 1-2 hour haul to LAX dealing with the traffic and inflated parking rates, or change to UA, DL, or US...

    What I really don't understand is every flight I have ever flown on AA out of BUR has been packed full...and usually oversold in the AM...so somebody please explain to me how they can cut flights that don't have empty seats...

    This is truly a sad day for garyst16 on MP and BUR Regular on TOBB...bad call AA
     
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    Continental flies EWR-DEL
     
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    Plus CO, AI and 9W's flights via BRU to DEL and BOM from JFK/EWR. NYC-India has a few options.
     
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