30 TSO's at Hawaii may be fired

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  1. Gargoyle
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    30 TSA employees at HNL are under investigation and may be fired; it seems they are too lazy for TSA standards. They didn't bother screening baggage. The FSD is among those facing firing.

    They go on to quote Pistole saying the “TSA holds its workforce to the highest ethical standards".
     
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    "A few bad apples"
     
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    ...or in this case a few bad pineapples...
     
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    Actually I'm surprised they didn't ignore it. This is behind the scene screening of luggage, which is inconsequential to the mission of the TSA. Their mission is to create as much kabuki as possible in public view, so as to ensure enhanced funding and mission creep. If the public can't see it, then it isn't important.
     
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    Sounds like a bad orchard....


    And why did it take 6 months to arrive at this conclusion?
     
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    More likely they spent 6 months trying to figure out a way to avoid arriving at a conclusion.
     
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    Or covering it all up..
     
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    Two backstage crew complained to the director that the backstage crew weren't acting. I don't understand how this is a problem in security theater. :confused:
     
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    Or hoping it would go all away....:rolleyes:

    My my what realism cynicism we are showing ...
     
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    Thats how we roll! :D
     
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    Why all the cynicism here? It seems to me that these TSA workers have about the same sense of regard for the value of the TSA as many of us have.
     
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    I thought I heard they "will be" fired, not that they "may be" fired.
     
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    Good question; the article states the TSA was able to go back 6 months and find luggage had not been screened, but had no clue anything was amiss until two workers blew the whistle. I guess the TSA is not really into checks and balances.
     
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    Fired? Shouldn't they be held to a higher standard as they are "officers" and in charge of so many peoples security.

    No, I think they should be prosecuted and have real jail time
     
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    There's a gaping hole in the difference in the PR the TSA dishes out versus what we (and the screeners) see on the front lines. There are five levels of the TSA's appearance:
    1. What TSA HQ wants everyone to believe.
    2. What TSA management thinks they see.
    3. What the front-line people see.
    4. What frequent fliers see.
    5. What the once-a-year travelers see.

    You put all of those groups into different rooms at the same time (you know, how a prime-time TV cop show does), and ask each group their perception of the TSA, you'll get five completely different stories.

    I'd love to sit down with Pistole and explain the frequent flier side of things. Gut feel says that he already knows the shenanigans that goes on, but as the head cheese, can't say it publicly.
     
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    You forgot about one more category...
    6. What terrorists see.
    ...or are they part of #4 or #5?
     
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    Sure, there's that angle.

    My guess is that they view the TSA as a nuisance rather than a serious obstacle. The bad guys did dry runs prior to 9/11 (just ask James Woods), no doubt they would do that again.

    I'm positive the TSA doesn't want the casual traveler to know (because they want everyone to think they are saving the world) is that the difficult, more effective, work is done by the folks at the CIA, FBI and other alphabet agencies by keeping them off airplanes, regardless of which airport they try to board a plane.

    Another guess is that the people at the Pentagon, DoD, etc, cringe at the thought that the TSA being thought of as the last line of defense. Those folks fly, they see what's going on, they have heard about how often the TSA whiffs on catching things at the checkpoint.
     
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    Actually, the bigger surprise is that they didn't lower the standards overall to just below what these thirty guys were doing and then give the thirty guys awards for outperformance.

    Mike
     
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    Now they'd do dry (or low-moisture) runs because of the liquids ban. ;)
     
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