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FFlyer
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Hi,
in the Hotel booking links provided yesterday a fundamental change in the program seems evident as the London event location at The Mayfair has now been changed to Rad Blu Bloomsbury.

From the e-mail the rationale for the change is somewhat unclear....

"We have made minor adjustments to accommodations in London in order to ensure a broader choice of hotels, a more consistent delivery of benefits during the high spring season, and an option to stay in London after the event concludes."

Nice to have 4 hotels to choose from in London, but it is disappointing that The Mayfair is neither an event location nor a hotel which is offered to MegaDo6 participants, as previously announced. The Mayfair boasts an atmosphere and location the other hotels cannot match. It is also classified as a 5* hotel whilst the others are 4* or lower. I was looking forward to try this hotel on this occasion, as it usually is too expensive for your London weekend or holiday with rates starting at over GBP 350/night. So this begs the question; what is the reason for this change and why do you communicate it as a "minor adjustment"?

Also a few more practical questions; in the booking process (in my case Bloomsbury after absorbing the disappointment) there was no option to include roommate CC number. How is this captured to ensure eligebility for Concierge status also for roommate?

How do you book only 1 night at Sky City ARN? It seems the link takes you right to a 2 night stay with no possibility to change to 1 night....is there a promo code to be used to get the MegaDo rate through a regular search?

FFlyer

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Posted : March 25, 2015 7:21 am
LIH Prem
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I think this is all covered* in the official thread, Pat+ posted there. The May Fair couldn't handle the event apparently.

This is the way it is on the mega dos. Things usually work out, just go with the flow if you want to participate.

*You might want to post the 1 night booking question in the official thread.

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Posted : March 25, 2015 8:08 am
LIH Prem
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I was able to change the dates. On the left side, it says modify and you can change the dates there. Also the promo code is listed there, it's MAFAI.

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Posted : March 25, 2015 8:28 am
rehoult
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FFlyer, post: 2580700, member: 176665 wrote: Hi,
in the Hotel booking links provided yesterday a fundamental change in the program seems evident as the London event location at The Mayfair has now been changed to Rad Blu Bloomsbury.

From the e-mail the rationale for the change is somewhat unclear....

"We have made minor adjustments to accommodations in London in order to ensure a broader choice of hotels, a more consistent delivery of benefits during the high spring season, and an option to stay in London after the event concludes."

Nice to have 4 hotels to choose from in London, but it is disappointing that The Mayfair is neither an event location nor a hotel which is offered to MegaDo6 participants, as previously announced. The Mayfair boasts an atmosphere and location the other hotels cannot match. It is also classified as a 5* hotel whilst the others are 4* or lower. I was looking forward to try this hotel on this occasion, as it usually is too expensive for your London weekend or holiday with rates starting at over GBP 350/night. So this begs the question; what is the reason for this change and why do you communicate it as a "minor adjustment"?

Also a few more practical questions; in the booking process (in my case Bloomsbury after absorbing the disappointment) there was no option to include roommate CC number. How is this captured to ensure eligebility for Concierge status also for roommate?

How do you book only 1 night at Sky City ARN? It seems the link takes you right to a 2 night stay with no possibility to change to 1 night....is there a promo code to be used to get the MegaDo rate through a regular search?

FFlyer

Re: The May Fair.

Club Carlson is one of our partners on SMD6, and had originally stated that they wanted to host us there so they could show off the property and we launched based on that knowledge. However, when they went to start putting the event together they realized that they would not be able to make The May Fair work. They informed us of this within the last week, and we passed it on to everyone here as quick as we could.

We're disappointed, as The May Fair is a great place for an event and we were looking forward to it, but in the end it just wouldn't work for Club Carlson. But I'm sure they will put on a great event wherever it is hosted.

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Posted : March 25, 2015 3:50 pm
cova
 cova
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rehoult, post: 2580953, member: 478 wrote:

We're disappointed, as The May Fair is a great place for an event and we were looking forward to it, but in the end it just wouldn't work for Club Carlson. But I'm sure they will put on a great event wherever it is hosted.

Can you provide any details on the London event hosted by CC?
Is this just a cocktail party or is there a program with prizes, etc?

Looking at logistics:

1. Charter arrives at 6pm.

2. Getting Luggage etc, and then tickets for Gatwick Express we are not going to get out of LGW before 6:30pm, maybe 7pm.

3. Travel time on Gatwick Express is exactly 30 minutes (have done it many times).

4. Arriving at Victoria at 7 to 7:30pm, transportation will be tube or taxi. Getting lots of taxi's will be hard to do - as this is end of rush hour and start of theater for the event. Tube requires Victoria Line (I would do Victoria Line to Warren, then south on the Northern Line to Tottenham Court) and getting a ticket at Victoria. Host hotel is a couple of blocks from Tottenham Court tube station. There is construction for the past few years near Tottenham Court Rd - at Oxford St since Charring Cross Rd was closed at Oxford St for new project which now takes over the street. Also the Central line stop at Tottenham Court is closed during this time period through the end of the year.

5. Best case is arrival at Bloomsburg hotel at 7:30 or 8pm. For those at other hotels - which are spread around the city - add another hour a minimum to get to hotel, change, and then get to Bloomsbury so maybe 8:30 to 9pm best case arrival.

This is a very congested section of London - much more so than Mayfair or Portman Sq. What happened to Portman Sq Radisson - not on the list?

6. Is 8pm a realistic start time. How long does the event run?

I actually prefer this location over the Mayfair, however this Radisson are old non-descript buildings. I many times stay at the St Giles a block away, and have never seen these Radisson hotels. Of course this area is next to Soho and the Theater district - with lots of bars, etc.

Also - I don't see any of the Leister Sq Radisson's on the list. Looks like Radisson just waited and looked at the booking levels (and these are the less desirable of the Radisson's in London) then made those hotels the ones to use. Rates are not that great. I could have booked some of these hotels earlier at cheaper rates.

My take - Radission should have hosted an event on Sunday night at ARN and just have kept Tues. night open.

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Posted : March 25, 2015 4:28 pm
cova
 cova
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FFlyer, post: 2580700, member: 176665 wrote:

How do you book only 1 night at Sky City ARN? It seems the link takes you right to a 2 night stay with no possibility to change to 1 night....is there a promo code to be used to get the MegaDo rate through a regular search?

FFlyer

Note - we are no longer staying at the Sky City ARN. We are at the off terminal, older (but remodeled) Radisson ARN via shuttle bus.

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Posted : March 25, 2015 4:37 pm
Pat+
 Pat+
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FFlyer, post: 2580700, member: 176665 wrote:
Nice to have 4 hotels to choose from in London, but it is disappointing that The Mayfair is neither an event location nor a hotel which is offered to MegaDo6 participants, as previously announced. The Mayfair boasts an atmosphere and location the other hotels cannot match. It is also classified as a 5* hotel whilst the others are 4* or lower. I was looking forward to try this hotel on this occasion, as it usually is too expensive for your London weekend or holiday with rates starting at over GBP 350/night. So this begs the question; what is the reason for this change and why do you communicate it as a "minor adjustment"?

Also a few more practical questions; in the booking process (in my case Bloomsbury after absorbing the disappointment) there was no option to include roommate CC number. How is this captured to ensure eligebility for Concierge status also for roommate?

How do you book only 1 night at Sky City ARN? It seems the link takes you right to a 2 night stay with no possibility to change to 1 night....is there a promo code to be used to get the MegaDo rate through a regular search?

Please post in the main thread. Really. It will greatly facilitate open communication.

There are no "hidden" changes - we've sent out an email to all participants mentioning adjustments, and I provided additional details in the very public thread. Unfortunately, organizing large events is complex and our partners ultimately have the last word on where/how they host us. Ryan's response above says it all.

As long as your roommate is a registered MegaDO participant who has specified their number when signing up, then they are good to go. We'll provide CC with a full list. The hotel reservation system will not prompt you for a second CC number because second guests normally don't receive points.

Regarding ARN, you can change the date. Note that we're not staying at the SkyCity anymore - please use the link in the email.

Let's get back to the main thread please. Pretty please. 🙂

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Posted : March 25, 2015 4:43 pm
Pat+
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cova, post: 2581007, member: 8675 wrote:
Looking at logistics:

1. Charter arrives at 6pm.
2. Getting Luggage etc, and then tickets for Gatwick Express we are not going to get out of LGW before 6:30pm, maybe 7pm.
3. Travel time on Gatwick Express is exactly 30 minutes (have done it many times).

Methinks you're worrying too much :p If we're late, then so be it - the event will start later. It's well understood by our partner that we're flying in from France and are subject to numerous delays on the way. Nobody will be left behind. 8pm is the time we're aiming for, and it's not unrealistic if everything goes well. If there are any delays, then we'll start later. Simple, easy.

As for the finer details of how to get to the hotels, as I mentioned in the main thread, this is a gathering of pro travelers, not a school trip. We make the reasonable assumption that the vast majority of participants is willing and able to find their way around a major European city with an effective transit network and where the locals happen to speak English. There are no plans to escort folks personally to their hotels or drop them off. Some participants will want to rest, some will want to change, some will want to go straight to the hotel and start drinking. Some will skip the reception altogether to enjoy London. It's all fair game. We're hoping that everyone has a good time based on their specific interests. The only portion of the trip during which we need to be strict about transportation and departure times is the charter, because we can't hold an aircraft waiting for latecomers. Once we get to London, it's a different game altogether.

Let's just assume and expect that our partners care about creating a memorable experience and not worry too much about some of the finer details. I'm sure you'll have a great time.

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Posted : March 25, 2015 4:57 pm
FFlyer
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Well, sorry for not posting in the right thread although I am not really sure what thread that is...thanks also for a lot of reassurance and clarification about some key details. I have not received an e-mail about any changes to the program or venues...is one expected to monitor some thread for info?

I do look forward to the event.....will be great fun I am sure....and as Pat (and SAS) says; We are all travellers:-)

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Posted : March 25, 2015 5:06 pm
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FFlyer, post: 2581026, member: 176665 wrote: Well, sorry for not posting in the right thread although I am not really sure what thread that is...thanks also for a lot of reassurance and clarification about some key details. I have not received an e-mail about any changes to the program or venues...is one expected to monitor some thread for info?

Here's the thread: https://milepoint.com/forums/threads/official-master-thread-smd6-sold-out.114061/

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Posted : March 25, 2015 5:10 pm
cova
 cova
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Pat+, post: 2581019, member: 448 wrote: Methinks you're worrying too much :p If we're late, then so be it - the event will start later. It's well understood by our partner that we're flying in from France and are subject to numerous delays on the way. Nobody will be left behind. 8pm is the time we're aiming for, and it's not unrealistic if everything goes well. If there are any delays, then we'll start later. Simple, easy.

As for the finer details of how to get to the hotels, as I mentioned in the main thread, this is a gathering of pro travelers, not a school trip. We make the reasonable assumption that the vast majority of participants is willing and able to find their way around a major European city with an effective transit network and where the locals happen to speak English. There are no plans to escort folks personally to their hotels or drop them off. Some participants will want to rest, some will want to change, some will want to go straight to the hotel and start drinking. Some will skip the reception altogether to enjoy London. It's all fair game. We're hoping that everyone has a good time based on their specific interests. The only portion of the trip during which we need to be strict about transportation and departure times is the charter, because we can't hold an aircraft waiting for latecomers. Once we get to London, it's a different game altogether.

Let's just assume and expect that our partners care about creating a memorable experience and not worry too much about some of the finer details. I'm sure you'll have a great time.

Good response. I know how MegaDo's work and they always turn out great - even if there is a glitch. Somehow the glitches are part of the excitement.

For me, this is a great section of London, the area I know very well for over 30 years. I wish I could stay a few days longer.

But the dilemma I have is that I have to miss the Wed event and catch a flight before 8am on Wed to get to the west coast on Wed afternoon. Hence - I will be departing the hotel at 4am to catch a taxi to Paddington to get the first Heathrow Express train of the morning which departs at 5:10am. The tube doesn't start that early.

So I am trying to decide whether it is worth staying in downtown London for the night to go to a cocktail party that may not amount to much. Or just take a bus from LGW to LHR and stay at an LHR hotel. Hence the reason for asking about the content of the cocktail party. I suspect I will stay in town and go to the party for the Concierge status.

Not sure if bonus point awards/contests with Club Carlson are planned like we had on Nordic Do.

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Posted : March 25, 2015 6:47 pm
CubsGirl
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I don't understand the animosity towards the questions being asked. I think we all understand that things change, but folks have been asking for awhile for clarity on the hotels only to be brushed off with "what does it matter?" Next, we're sent an email listing fundamental changes to the program that was advertised and purchased. Then, those of us who have questions--so that we can adjust other plans and/or evaluate the value proposition of the choices we have--- are either provided no answers at all or some variation of "we're not on a school field trip."

Personally, I bought in for these reasons: 1) Club Carlson was a partner, a hotel chain that I was interested in getting to know more about and this seemed like a great way to get top level status; 2) great rates at Club Carlson's flagship property were going be offered; and 3) we were going to have an event at the flagship property. Now, two of those things aren't happening. Instead, we're essentially being asked to re-focus on the fact that Carlson is still putting on a reception (as though the only parts of interest are that there will be alcohol, snacks and that Carlson is putting it on). And, no one has been willing to provide answers on what is actually required to get top tier status or how long it will last, which makes it difficult to decide whether paying for hotel rooms we might not (or, in my case, that I would not) otherwise choose is worth it (whether we might prefer to spend Tuesday evening enjoying London rather than at event for which we have few details).

I appreciate that Club Carlson's inability to deliver on The May Fair was outside the control of the organizers of this event, but the communication around the changes is.

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Posted : March 25, 2015 11:00 pm
LIH Prem
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I don't see any animosity here.

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Posted : March 26, 2015 2:14 am
cova
 cova
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Let me add - the hotel change at ARN is a disappointment as well. This limits your options. The SkyCity hotel is in the new terminal 5, with shops, restaurants, etc - most likely air side. The big plus is that it is also on top of the Express Train to Central Stockholm which is a 20 minute train ride. This would have made it easy for folks to head into town on Sunday night (if not in the dinner group). Coming in the day before - now makes it necessary too change plans. I was going to stay at SkyCity on Sat night - but now it likely makes sense to stay in Stockholm and then come back out to ARN hotel on Sunday for dinner.

I suppose it would be possible to spend Sunday night at the Skycity hotel and come out to the ARN remote hotel on Monday am, since registration is Monday am, and there is nothing at the more isolated ARN remote hotel on Sunday. Since the event starts on Monday am - I assume only 1 night is required at the ARN host hotel.

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Posted : March 26, 2015 12:29 pm
Cage
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cova, post: 2581007, member: 8675 wrote:
Looking at logistics:
2. Getting Luggage etc, and then tickets for Gatwick Express we are not going to get out of LGW before 6:30pm, maybe 7pm.
3. Travel time on Gatwick Express is exactly 30 minutes (have done it many times).
4. Arriving at Victoria at 7 to 7:30pm, transportation will be tube or taxi. Getting lots of taxi's will be hard to do - as this is end of rush hour and start of theater for the event. Tube requires Victoria Line (I would do Victoria Line to Warren, then south on the Northern Line to Tottenham Court) and getting a ticket at Victoria. Host hotel is a couple of blocks from Tottenham Court tube station. There is construction for the past few years near Tottenham Court Rd - at Oxford St since Charring Cross Rd was closed at Oxford St for new project which now takes over the street. Also the Central line stop at Tottenham Court is closed during this time period through the end of the year.

Tottenham Court is two stops away from Mornington Crescent. I win... what do I get. :p

Pat+, post: 2581019, member: 448 wrote: As for the finer details of how to get to the hotels, as I mentioned in the main thread, this is a gathering of pro travelers, not a school trip. We make the reasonable assumption that the vast majority of participants is willing and able to find their way around a major European city with an effective transit network and where the locals happen to speak English.

- My preschoolers trip to the museum included a requirement that each participant find their own way to downtown YYC. Which is to say even school trips have a high standard for knowing how to navigate to a destination.
- I would debate whether Londoners consider themselves to have an effective transit network.
- While english is spoken in London, the idioms utilized by the locals can call into question whether the communication is likely to result success. Pat+, talk to rehoult about me having to get "where the box to" translated into proper english.

CubsGirl, post: 2581217, member: 2000 wrote: I don't understand the animosity towards the questions being asked.

Some of the animosity can be explained as the tables are now turned onto the Megado organizers, many of whom are used to being on the side of complaining about enhancements to their favourite loyalty program. Its understandable.

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