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Traveling Momma
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April 8, 2013 8:46 pm  

Hi all -

As part of my ongoing education in this game I'd like to experiment with understanding everything I've learned so far by searching for complicated, high-value award tickets. I don't have enough miles yet and will likely use an Award Booking service when the time is right. However, I'm one of those people that likes to know how everything works.

With the above introduction which program do you recommend I mess around with and learn the functionality? I'm using Oneworld and Star Alliance carriers and will be looking for flights departing from ORD to Europe, Middle East and South East Asia. I'll want complicated First and Business Class awards typically at peak times or just before peak times for 3 seats at a time. I will look for Free one ways and stop overs to maximize the value of the redemption.

Your suggestions on which on or ones to "play" with for a short period of time are helpful.

NB: I used 100 points on Award Nexus already and have only scratched the surface. I think I'm getting the hang of it but need to try out everything I've learned.

Thanks,

Blue.

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2013/2014 trips - DC, Yosemite, Skiing Utah, Bangkok, Florida, Amalfi Coast ๐Ÿ˜Ž


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Quasiconvexity
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April 8, 2013 8:54 pm  

I have found AwardNexus to be the most user-friendly (and flexible). The points do by fast, though! ๐Ÿ™‚ I think it is great for planning a specific trip that you may have in mind, but not for "playing around" as the points do go by fast. Expertflyer is what I would recommend.

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Traveling Momma
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April 8, 2013 9:00 pm  

Quasiconvexity, post: 1919370, member: 341 wrote: I have found AwardNexus to be the most user-friendly (and flexible). The points do by fast, though! ๐Ÿ™‚ I think it is great for planning a specific trip that you may have in mind, but not for "playing around" as the points do go by fast. Expertflyer is what I would recommend.

Agreed. They flew by and I've only scratched the surface. I'll look at expert flyer now too. Thanks for your feedback. Am I crazy for wanting to "play" around? Even if pay for an award booking service I want to have a good solid understanding of what they'll be doing.

Cheers!

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2013/2014 trips - DC, Yosemite, Skiing Utah, Bangkok, Florida, Amalfi Coast ๐Ÿ˜Ž


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edekba
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April 8, 2013 9:22 pm  

You could always just use UA.com or ANA tool to "play around" with SA flights. And what they'll allowed & not allow. I've booked 2 award trips using just UA/ANA. One was a simple stopover/openjaw to SE asia; while my upcoming one is a stopover/openjaw in Europe on my way to Asia and back home.

for OW ... BA or Qantas allows you to look at what's available.

For just playing around ... I like the free stuff ๐Ÿ˜‰

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Wandering Aramean
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April 8, 2013 10:47 pm  

edekba, post: 1919383, member: 83779 wrote: For just playing around ... I like the free stuff ๐Ÿ˜‰

Me, too. That's why my tools have a free version. Both *A search/alerts and OW alerts can be had for free.

Not necessarily as full-featured as the others, but the price is hard to beat. ๐Ÿ˜Ž

At the end of the day the data sources are basically all the same. So it becomes a question of usability, support and price.

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edekba
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April 8, 2013 10:49 pm  

Wandering Aramean, post: 1919450, member: 23 wrote: Me, too. That's why my tools have a free version. Both *A search/alerts and OW alerts can be had for free.

Not necessarily as full-featured as the others, but the price is hard to beat. ๐Ÿ˜Ž

for alerts WA tools is a no brainier. For searches ... more or less the same ... but UA.com would probably be better so that the OP can see the pricing structure (both miles & taxes) and see what UA allows in terms of stopovers/etc. But once you know what you're aiming for WAtools are the way to go.

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garyst16
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April 8, 2013 10:57 pm  

Wandering Aramean, post: 1919450, member: 23 wrote: Me, too. That's why my tools have a free version. Both *A search/alerts and OW alerts can be had for free.

Not necessarily as full-featured as the others, but the price is hard to beat. ๐Ÿ˜Ž

At the end of the day the data sources are basically all the same. So it becomes a question of usability, support and price.

Which would be all well and good except for.... ๐Ÿ˜‰


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edekba
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April 8, 2013 11:52 pm  

garyst16, post: 1919459, member: 8057 wrote: Which would be all well and good except for.... ๐Ÿ˜‰

But the award searches work fine ... ? I don't think the OP is using wa.Tools to search for best fare finder.

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Wandering Aramean
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April 8, 2013 11:53 pm  

garyst16, post: 1919459, member: 8057 wrote: Which would be all well and good except for.... ๐Ÿ˜‰

The OP is looking for award space. That feature is working just fine. Were they asking about fare search tools I'd not recommend mine; I know all too well they don't work.

I'm also curious if you know anywhere else effectively aggregating that data. I sure don't. Definitely not KVS, EF nor AwardNexus.

FliSea.com is another one worth looking in to.

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garyst16
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April 8, 2013 11:58 pm  

Wandering Aramean, post: 1919515, member: 23 wrote: The OP is looking for award space. That feature is working just fine.

You are absolutely, positively correct... it is working just fine.. however, I was commenting on your response regarding the free use of your tools... hence my response, which would be great but...


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Wandering Aramean
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April 9, 2013 12:05 am  

garyst16, post: 1919522, member: 8057 wrote: You are absolutely, positively correct... it is working just fine.. however, I was commenting on your response regarding the free use of your tools... hence my response, which would be great but...

Yeah, I actually still don't understand what the point you're making is. :confused:

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garyst16
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April 9, 2013 12:06 am  

Oh well... no worries... ๐Ÿ™‚


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Traveling Momma
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April 9, 2013 2:14 pm  

Wandering Aramean, post: 1919450, member: 23 wrote: Me, too. That's why my tools have a free version. Both *A search/alerts and OW alerts can be had for free.
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Dear WA, Spectacular! I've bookmarked your site and will check it out. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and tools with me. I've been to your site, read your twitter feed and love how you explore and interact. You're a gem!

Blue.

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2013/2014 trips - DC, Yosemite, Skiing Utah, Bangkok, Florida, Amalfi Coast ๐Ÿ˜Ž


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Traveling Momma
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April 26, 2013 2:28 pm  

Guys, I'm wondering if you can help me with something. I used Award Nexus messing around looking at flights from ORD to BKK in March of 2014. I found several CX first class awards that suite my needs. I then flipped over to AA to see if they pop up there and they don't. Then I logged into CX with my Asia Miles account and did a search also and don't see them pop up there either. When searching on Award Nexus there were flights everyday for a full two weeks. Why can't I see these on the CX site.

I'm specifically looking at March 11th (evening flight) ORD to BKK via HKG (stopover for a visit)

Return March 22nd or 23 BKK to ORD (via SIN if possible or another interesting city for stopover visit)

Because this is international I was going to also practice how one would add a fee one way to say HNL for December of 2014.

Why is Award Nexus showing avail but nothing on AA.com and nothing on CX?

Have Kids and Travel- On points and miles for free with a kid in tow.
2013/2014 trips - DC, Yosemite, Skiing Utah, Bangkok, Florida, Amalfi Coast ๐Ÿ˜Ž


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edekba
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April 26, 2013 2:56 pm  

Try BA

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