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slalom
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On a recent flight, a fellow passenger pretty much tried to push me out of the way on the pretense of having a "short connection" (flight was 10 minutes later than schedule getting to the gate).

I turned and said "I assume your connection is more important than mine" and let them pass. I had a 40 minute connection (DFW with a terminal change - made it no problem).

My question is - does this request by the FA ever really work? My guess is that unless you are in the first few rows (i.e. 1st/Business on most flights) it doesn't really help and only disrupts deplaning.

My opinion is that they should forget it and let all passengers depart in an orderly manner but I'm interested in what others think.

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Posted : March 13, 2018 7:30 pm
iolaire
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Someone on a recent flight tried to do that and someone who sounded basically like you blocked them (I don't know if the blocker had a tight connection). The person trying to get off had virtually no carry on so they could move better than the average person. It’s completely feasible that he could have moved up the isle if he was polite and no one actively blocked him.

If it was me I would have let the person slide past and make their way the best they can since they were able to move well without a carry on.

I don't think it would work and no should you make a significant effort if they have baggage and its hard from them to move in a crowed isle. No one will get a roller case up a crowded isle.

I feel there is no good reason not to help someone get off if it’s feasible for them to.

(Also on a recent flight someone wanted to try to rush up and then figured out he couldn't even get into the isle. A frequent flyer talked to him and found out what flight to Austria he was trying to make and looked it up on her phone to tell him that flight was delayed like usual and to not worry about the connection despite us being something like 1.5 hours late.)

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Posted : March 13, 2018 8:07 pm
Counsellor
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Today I was flying United from CRP to IAH. Departure of the flight was delayed due to a delay in arrival of the equipment; the crew tried to make up time en route, but we nonetheless landed late. The Purser came on as we taxied and requested people who were terminating in Houston, or whose onward flights did not depart within 30 minutes of landing, to remain seated and allow passengers with tight connections to deplane first.

So far as I could see, we all did so. Most of us remained seated while about 10 pax departed, then we left. (Of course, some of the folks who left in the first group may not have actually had tight connections, and simply took advantage of the situation.) I had a tight connection, but not that tight, and made it with time to spare.

I think the announcement was a nice touch to try to help passengers. My thought is that while it's difficult to police, only a total jerk would try to obstruct people from expedited leaving to make a tight connection. What goes around comes around, you know, and next time it could be you who has to hurry to make a connecting flight.

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Posted : March 20, 2018 12:26 am
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I've been on a few United flights over the years where the FA made the announcement to please let those with tight connections to deplane first. Many people will let them pass, but there are always the self-important people who think they come first no matter what.

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Posted : March 20, 2018 1:54 pm
daninstl
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It hardly ever works. I've seen it maybe twice in 40 years of flying (yes my arms are tired 🙂 I think it is well meaning but since we don't know who those are that have tight connections it doesn't work well. The FA's would be better off telling everyone on the plane to remain seated once we reach the gate and call out passengers with tight connections by row or something.

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Posted : March 21, 2018 9:22 pm
Jorgenhelstrup
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Since the cabin crew have access to the flight itiniaries to all passengers, they really ought to check who has very tight connections due to delays - and command the passengers who do not have the tight connection to remains seated, allowing tight connection passengers to get out first! Those who do not heed the command, should be held back by staff.

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Posted : March 25, 2018 10:24 am
mikeschemm
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I am half and half. I am usually very quick to get off the plane, so don't feel I am likely to block anyone. Also, I often have close connections. So I won't remain seated. However, if someone comes up behind me, and I think I can still make my flight, I politely squeeze to the side and let them pass. I think the people who suggest the FA's should call tight connections by name have an excellent idea.

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Posted : March 25, 2018 10:50 am
satman40
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The idea of the FA Anouncement remain seated till your name is announced as a tight connection is the best.

Too many take advantage of any situation

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Posted : March 25, 2018 12:43 pm
Teritrips
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I think it's all about how it is said and if people hear/understand.
I've been on flights where the request tone of the FA sounds like any other announcement Or Charlie Brown's blah blah blahor too soft. But when it is asked with either a little more assertiveness or more of a "could you please do us this one favor", it's adhered to.
Also, with all the head sets worn, ESL, phone calls made and intense Words with Friends I have seen people miss the announcement and wonder why people are so "rude" passing by,
Lastly,I hate to say it, but region is also a factor. Where politeness is nutured, you will get sympathy. In more competitive self indulgent markets, it's every person for them selves.
Personally, when the announcement is made, I'll ask the person next to me about their connection and just let them go. If it's me with the tight connection, I'll personalize my situation to themx if they don't offer to step aside, I just ask.

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Posted : March 25, 2018 12:45 pm
345j345
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I hear this announcement more and more often as of late on United, often in situations where we’re just a few minutes behind schedule. Recently I’ve been wondering whether the announcement is to help the customers or the airline. Gate agents know a connecting flight has arrived and presumably in most cases won’t close the door on people who they know are just a few minutes away in the terminal.

At any rate, I’m skeptical it really helps much, but I feel like the common sense response is to let others out first until there’s an inevitable lag when the aisle is temporarily clear as someone struggles with a bag in the overhead or something. I typically sit in the first few rows of E+ and it usually doesn’t take long for a delay long enough for me to slip out.

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Posted : March 25, 2018 12:54 pm
twschmidt
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I think we should believe a person who says he/she has a short connection. I had one once and no one would yield to me. I ran thru the airport.

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Posted : March 25, 2018 9:06 pm
TRHiker
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I also have mixed thoughts on this. In the first place, many of these problems are created by the airline. For example, last time I looked, UA had minimum domestic to domestic connecting time at ORD of 40 minutes, which is really 30 if you back off closing the door 10 minutes before flight. But I think 40 minutes is unreasonable if a concourse change is involved at ORD (and you usually cannot know that in advance).
Second, the announcement should be a polite request as others have noted, before landing, but be something to the effect of "we see that we have six people who have really tight connections, for flights to Nashville, Atlanta, and Detroit. The Atlanta flight is 2 gates down on the left as you exit the jet bridge. We will have a cart waiting for the four of you on the Nashville and Detroits flights just after you exit the jet bridge. If you are not connecting to one of these flights, we kindly request that you allow these few people to exit first." The FAs should have an idea how many people are in a tight situation, and that is helpful to know how long to wait.
Unless I have a tight connection (or a person further in the row from me does), I will usually wait. But several times if I am ready and there is a gap, I will proceed out quickly and stay to one side of the jet bridge so that others can pass if needed.
Finally, from prior discussions, I think misconnects have a fairly high status for getting on future flights. But often the traveler needs to mention that s/he is a misconnect to get recognized as such, otherwise the GAs may just view them as another standby based upon their FF status.

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Posted : March 25, 2018 9:49 pm
mre5765
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I always exit the plane last if the plane parks (I was going to write "arrives at the gate", but at LAX (the Frankfurt of America) gate arrivals are as rare as blue moons) late and I am in no hurry to make my connection.

Since I am in the aisle seat, I stand up as fast as I can after the seat belt sign is off, and either move into the aisle seat across from me, or into the nearest aisle seat in front of me so that the passenger in the window can leave fast.

I am the only one every plane I ride that does this.

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Posted : August 6, 2018 9:19 am
iolaire
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On Friday July 27th we were flying DCA-PDX-ANC on Alaska Air and were delayed of DCA by an hour or so. That meant we were arriving at PDX about 9 minutes after the departure of the ANC flight.

I reached out to the twitter team via DM and asked if they could look into the connection and hold the next plane. They said they would alert operations but could not make promises, but they did note a good number of people were making the same connection.

On approach and on landing the flight attendants asked multiple times for people to please stay in their seats and let the 25 or so people connecting the three planes they were holding depart so they could make their connections. The other passengers were polite and happily waited for us to depart and we made our connection and still arrived in Anchorage early. I was thanking people on the way out and everyone voiced things along the line that it was no big deal and they were happy to do it.

Now there is a chance that a few people who were not in a rush still rushed off, but overall the plea for people to stay in their seats worked well. So thank you.

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Posted : August 6, 2018 10:48 am
slalom
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iolaire, post: 2811416, member: 250 wrote: .....sounded basically like you blocked them (I don't know if the blocker had a tight connection).

So basically, I had a tighter connection than the person who was pushing people out of the way. So basically, I had more reason to push people out of the way and am not a "blocker". My point is I rarely see this work to the point that people can actually get off the plane faster than a normal, orderly, de-planing.

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Posted : August 19, 2018 11:52 am