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YULtide
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Recently I had the opportunity to experience connecting from an international arrival to a domestic departure in YVR. As it was a tight connection I was met by a concierge, who could not have been more helpful. We made our way to immigration, where I discerned that the immigration app saves no time at all, then to the bus to the domestic part of the airport. The bus was actually a slow-down, just as I experienced last summer in YYZ. Fortunately, the concierge could clearly see the problem. It wasn't clear whether an unnecessary security screening might have been faster than the bus, but it would have been pretty close.

 

The big question is why the bus?

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Posted : April 22, 2019 11:01 pm
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mevlannen
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Wow, and here I thought that my experience of last summer, having to run across the airport (and misconnect anyway), was bad. I'm puzzled, too, about "why the bus?" Only thing I can think of is that it might be better for wheelchair passengers?

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Posted : April 23, 2019 8:10 am
YULtide
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I think the bus is about keeping people in the sterile area. There's no existing public pathway from immigration to domestic boarding so they take people for a short tour around the tarmac. This allows people to avoid having to be screened again, but at the cost of queueing for the bus and the time the trip takes.

And it's only available if you come from certain origins, mainly Europe, Australia and Japan. I don't know why they don't trust screening in Taipei or Hong Kong. They also don't allow duty free in tamper-evident bags from those locations.

My usual path transiting from Hong Kong is through the baggage claim, up the elevator and along the corridor to screening. I take a quick peek and if there's a queue I turn left, head down the escalator to check in and through the main screening area in the priority lane. It's quicker. I've done the whole process in 25 minutes from international arrival gate to domestic departure.

Bottom line is that replacing one bottleneck with another doesn't improve efficiency.

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Posted : April 23, 2019 8:59 am
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mevlannen
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It's a little bit like building another freeway interchange on the outskirts of a big city -- it just moves the traffic jam from one place to another.

Anyway, I find the signage in the YVR Customs hall confusing enough that I invariably find myself heading out the wrong door. Add to that the long schlep from the landing gates..... aargh.

 

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Posted : May 6, 2019 8:33 am
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YULtide
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Posted by: mevlannen

It's a little bit like building another freeway interchange on the outskirts of a big city -- it just moves the traffic jam from one place to another.

Anyway, I find the signage in the YVR Customs hall confusing enough that I invariably find myself heading out the wrong door. Add to that the long schlep from the landing gates..... aargh.

 

Will get a chance to test this again in a few weeks. Looking forward to the challenge.

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Posted : May 20, 2019 12:16 am
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mevlannen
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A challenge it likely shall be.

I do have to give Air Canada credit, in that if I miss a transborder>domestic connection (last flights of the evening) at YVR, at least they have no qualms about putting me up in the Fairmont Airport.

MCT Int'l>Dom is what, 70 minutes at YVR?

 

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Posted : May 21, 2019 10:14 am
YULtide
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Vancouver MCT is 80 minutes. My next attempt should be pretty leisurely. When I booked I had 2 hours. Now after a couple of schedule changes it's up to 2.5 hours.

 

MCTs are here

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Posted : May 22, 2019 9:59 am
The Lev
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I flew TPE-YVR-YYZ on Sunday and here are my observations:

Customs and Immigration was a complete zoo. Thank goodness for NEXUS. without it, i'm not sure I would have made the connection. Apparently this is "normal" in the summer. With NEXUS it was a breeze.

Still no "bus". Long schlep from arriving gate to immigration. Long schlep from baggage area (no checked bags but if you have them you need to take them) along what appears to be a sterile (or at least not connected to anything else) walkway. At the end of the walkway you get streamed into either a small dedicated security screening area if you have no checked bags or dumped somewhere downstairs). From the dedicated security it is the usual schlep to the domestic gates.

I don't know why Canadian airports insist on re-screening people coming from outside of Canada. Huge waste of time and money for all concerned.

People rave about YVR. I don't get it - connections from International here are way worse than YYZ, YYC or YUL (at least IMHO).

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Posted : June 6, 2019 2:50 pm
Parnel2
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If you connect in TPE,PVG or HKG for onward flights you also need to go through security. You also need to do that at FRA and MUC if connecting to a non Schengen flight.Been there and done that in all those airports

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Posted : June 6, 2019 4:50 pm
YULtide
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I'm not sure YVR international connections are substantially worse than YYZ. Except that in YYZ you are much more clearly in an unsterile area after baggage claim, so the screening seems more logical. In YVR you never see the public areas between baggage claim and screening, so that second screening looks much more superfluous.

I would guess the  screening is there because you could take some forbidden item from your checked bag, but the solution is to check bags through, as is done with flights originating in certain countries. But I agree that this screening is a real pain. Last year I flew on a 5-flight itinerary through 5 countries and had to be screened 5 times, the last time being in YVR. It began to feel like a form of harassment.

FWIW, I usually size up the security queue and if it looks too long, I turn left and go down an escalator to the main security point, where they at least have a priority queue and you stand a decent chance of getting through faster.

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Posted : June 8, 2019 6:58 pm
mevlannen
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Posted by: YULtide

The big question is why the bus?

Maybe the airport had the bus on a long-term contract whose original purpose had ended (say, changes in servicing of the Long Term parking-lot?), and so they felt that they had to come up with a new use for it?

In any case, INTL>DOM is definitely a black hole at YVR.

 

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Posted : June 25, 2019 9:30 am